[ SECRET POST #1920 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1920 ⌋

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[linked for... sort of scribbly porny, not really]








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Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 040 secrets from Secret Submission Post #274.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom.livejournal.com]

06. http://tinyurl.com/7ojh43x

[fenm.livejournal.com]

We don't need Elementary to fuel the ship, the writers of Sherlock do that just fine on their own.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh get over it. If it offends you so much, don't watch it. Ignore its existence like many other Holmesians have done for tons of previous awful adaptations. Simple as that :)

And the shippers are going to ship no matter what. Deal or get out.

[visiblemarket.livejournal.com]

I'm sorry, OP, but that makes no sense. It's not like no one on this side of the pond has read the books or anything and knows the John/Sherlock relationship is not romantic in ACD canon. It's not like no one on this side of the pond has seen Sherlock Holmes or any other related media, where occasionally the subtext is played up but canonically they're not banging.

My only potential problem with Elementary is that Lucy Liu's character won't be a badass Army doctor, and only because how awesome would that be if she was?

[chocorate.livejournal.com]

Get over it.

[rocketgirl2.livejournal.com]

I really hope CBS doesn't do a Joan/Sherlock hookup because that would just be bad on so many levels. :S
Fingers crossed that Joan is a lesbian (even though I know it won't be so).

[sparklywalls.livejournal.com]

The boring yet inevitable hook up will just be one part of the show though, maybe the rest of it will be ok? I mean, I got tired of the will they/won't they stuff in one of my other fandoms even though I somewhat shipped it (and that was a m/f pairing that could "never be") but the rest of the show was still awesome for another couple of seasons.

Also I doubt Sherlock/John shippers need a heterosexual pairing of the characters to think "you know, that totally works!" - they're already shipping it. I too prefer a bromance rather than romance reading but BBC's Sherlock dances between the two so can't say I blame 'em.

[hunterwithcause.livejournal.com]

I really, really want them to hook up. Because then I can point all those people that lament about how slashing them is ~ruining their special and beautiful bromance~ and HDU, there's nothing homophobic about running around with your head cut off and screaming that the connection between John and Sherlock is too pure/emotional/sacred/whatever to ruin it by putting them in a relationship with each other towards Elementary and show them how it's suddenly A-OK for them to be in a relationship the moment one of them is genderbent.

So yeah. While it would be nice to have a show where the leads aren't paired off when they're of the opposite gender, this is one show where I desperately want it. And I don't even care about Sherlock Holmes.

[(Anonymous)]

The thing that would bother me if Sherlock and Joan did get together romantically is that it would emphasise the homophobia in our society. In all the other Sherlock Holmes adaptations, where the main two characters stay male, they have their epic bromances - with less important females character introduced just be their love interests to show that they're really not gay, honest!

This often gets excused as wanting to stay true to the originals, and not wanting to ruin their friendship. However, if an adaptation like Elementary, where one of the main characters is gender flipped, has a romantic relationship between them it would emphasise that it's fuck all to do with "keeping to the original canon" and everything about "we can't possibly have a romance with two leading male characters"!

[(Anonymous)]

BBC Sherlock can go fuck itself with their creepy ~no homo~ homophobic vibes tbh.

[(Anonymous)]

This is a dumb secret.

And fyi, they've already made a statement that they "won't go there".

[mekkio.livejournal.com]

I'm the complete opposite. The more I hear about it, the more intrigued I am. In the show, Sherlock is an addict who worked as a consulting detective in London until he came to NYC to sober up. Watson is also an addict and an ex-Doctor, who lost her license, who is now Sherlock's sobriety partner. They solve crimes and try to keep each other clean. The whole English fish in American waters trying to kick his habit with another addict who is an American while being wrapped around in world of murder and thievery tickles my fancy.

Is it going to be like Sherlock? Of course not. But I don't want it to be. Just like I didn't want Sherlock to be another Rathbone copy.

[raccoons.livejournal.com]

The part that bothers me the most is "I don't want any more fans on my side of the ocean getting the wrong idea about Sherlock and John".

It's not like we don't have access to the other billions of Sherlock Holmes stories. Which, by the way, you can read or watch any time you need your epic bromance fix.

[(Anonymous)]

tbqh Elementary sounds like the 10 billionth boring crime procedural churned out by American tv in the last decade. Snooze.

[ninety6tears.livejournal.com]

I suggest you move past your unnecessary ship rage if it's making you get to the point where you're angry about a different relationship interpretation on a different show that hasn't even begun yet. The one and only agreement I could have with you is that it would kind of be a shame if they lost an opportunity to show a man and woman actually just being friends, but it seems your opinion on Elementary only has to do with a hatred of all manners of shipping Holmes/Watson, so.

[(Anonymous)]

[gabzillaz.livejournal.com]

I don't know where to start with this secret

[100101011.livejournal.com]

er, okay? i don't really get your feelings on this. i ship sherlock/john hard, but i don't want their epic bromance messed with, either. if they got together in the actual series i'd honestly probably go off it. canon is not fanon, and i don't want it to be. but i want them both. what's wrong with fantasy, op?

[velvet-mace.livejournal.com]

I'm flipping tired of Elementary getting trashed before it even airs. No, there is nothing intrinsically wrong with making the "Watson" character a woman, or not a soldier, or American, or whatever. There've been over 200 screen versions of Sherlock Holmes over the years, one more won't break the fandom.

When it airs, we can rip it to shreds on it's merits or lack thereof, but at this point criticism just seems premature, overly-defensive, and tinfoily.

[(Anonymous)]

You are the first person I have ever seen complain that the problem wtih Elementary is that it might make Sherlock look more gay. Congratulations I guess.

[(Anonymous)]

Please eat your homophobia sandwich somewhere else. You're acting like being mistaken for gay is the WORST THING THAT CAN HAPPEN amigad

Whereas gay people are mistaken for straight all the time and that's perfectly okay.

Yeah fuck you OP.

[(Anonymous)]

I'd rather Sherlock was also a woman in this series.

And then her and Joan can get it on. COME AT ME, OP.

Honestly, though, I'm more interested in the crimes, you know, detecting and plot and stuff? That there will be a prominant, strong (hopefully) female character in this adaptation is just a bonus.

[drunken-clowns.livejournal.com]

There's a bajillion Sherlock Holmes adaptations out there, and a lot of them are completely off from canon (pretty sure this isn't the first lady!Watson, either.)

If they're a couple in some, but just have an epic friendship in others, then so what? None of these are exactly the same as the source material, and people aren't going to ~get the wrong idea~ just from one adaptation doing things differently. People already have ~the wrong idea~. There's a theory that's been floating around for years that Watson is secretly a woman and married to Sherlock in the original books. Slash fandom's pretty tame compared to that sort of thing.

Sucks that whether the relationship's likely to be platonic or romantic depends on the genders, though. Because a man and a woman can't just be friends, and if you actually think that people could possibly be queer then you're ~getting the wrong idea~

[(Anonymous)]

The biggest problem isn't going to be the gender swap or the relationship, IMHO. I believe the biggest problem with Elementary is it is going to turn into one big anti-drug message, because America is big on its War on Drug and we have to cram that shit into everything. If I wanted to see Sherlock Holmes dealing with his drug addiction, I'd reread The Seven-Per-Cent Solution, which is far more entertaining. But CBS will make it "Drugs are bad, mmkay." To quote an overused saying, "No shit, Sherlock."

[(Anonymous)]

lol. "the wrong idea"