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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-05-02 06:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #1947 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1947 ⌋

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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(Anonymous) 2012-05-03 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Holy fuck are you being this dense on purpose or what. Shut the fucking computer off, go outside, and get some perspective.

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-03 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup, you keep proving how not bullying you are by trying to control me and belittling me.

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-03 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
And you keep proving what a butthurt idiot you are by refusing to get it, so I guess we're even.

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
It's really sad that it's come to this. I haven't said a thing to contradict you and you still feel the need to try to belittle me until I support you? Is that what bullying is?

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
when you get into bullying (going out of your way to exclude or mock people)... you're the one crossing the line

Yes, you fucking did. Excluding isn't bullying, you fucking moron. It's the exact opposite of bullying. Mocking doesn't come anywhere close to bullying. I don't care if you support me. Just stop spewing offensive bullshit. Es[ecially when you've been told that it's offensive and why.

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
You have done nothing of the sort. You have not provided me with a definition of what bullying is, only try to insult and belittle me and others. Also, you're missing the key word there "Going out of your way." Really? Exclusion can't be bullying?You sure about that? I can find lots of articles saying it is (here's a bit of a cheesy one, but there isn't that much academic research into bullying: http://actagainstbullying.org/advice/Teens/being_excluded.htm)

Give me a clear and precise definition of bullying. No double speak.

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
Nice derailment attempt, but it isn't going to work. I don't have to provide you a "definition of bullying" because that's common fucking sense for anyone who doesn't have their head so far up their ass they could eat their own stomach lining. If you really want one, go look up the statutes for any one of the 47 states that have passed anti-bullying laws. Insisting on a definition of something which you should already know is changing the subject to take attention away from you being an asshole because fandom butthurt doesn't mean you're being bullied.

What you said was fucking offensive. I explained to you why it's offensive. That you refuse to understand it isn't my problem, but if you insist, I'll use small words this time. It's offensive because once you start including everything as bullying, it decreases the word's power until it's effectively meaningless. It stops people from taking the problem seriously, because if bullying can mean something as stupid and inconsequential as not inviting you to the Cool Kids Club Meeting, then it isn't that bad.

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Wow... yeah. That's absolutely bullying. Claiming that it's common sense? Nope, everyone has different definitions. I've given you mine.

Sorry, this is my last reply as I refuse to subject myself to this. You'll have to find someone else to intimidate and shout at.

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
So disagreement =/= bullying, unless they disagree with you. Good to know!

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
Notice how you are completely able to walk away from this discussion and never talk to this person ever again, and the fact that you waited this long to do so was entirely your choice. You know what that is? Not bullying!

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
And all those kids can just transfer schools. :D Totally okay, right?

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
...Please be sarcasm.

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
No! I was being sincere!

What do you need? A sarcasm sign?

My point was that the victim being able to leave doesn't impact whether something is bullying.

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
It impacts the seriousness of the bullying. Do you honestly not see the difference between a situation you are willfully putting yourself in (internet, where you can sign off at any time) and one where you have no choice (real life, where many people don't get a choice of where they go and when)?

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, it does. If you can easily leave the situation but choose not to? That's not bullying. That's martyrdom. And before you jump on it, transferring schools isn't easy. Especially public school, and homeschooling is not an option for families who are too poor to afford to have one parent home all the time.

Fandom shit doesn't require anyone's intervention or anyone to advocate for you, because you have all the power you need to cut it out of your life. It's not bullying when you have the luxury of walking the fuck away.

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
Stop. Go outside. Get some perspective.

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
Right, where perspective = bullying olympics.

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
+1. This can't be stressed enough.

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
I call troll.

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
Nope, someone who actually knows that bullies aren't all grunting, drooling stereotypes and that we could all be bullies in about 30 seconds flat.

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
I call bully.

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
Sadly, at times, probably yes, but no more than anyone else here.

That's kind of my point... that flinging insults, treating people like they're morons, pressuring them to agree with you, yeah, that's bullying behavior. It's really easy to do. That's the biggest 'myth' as far as I'm concerned: you're either a bully or a victim, when in changes all the time online. You don't have power over me and I don't have power over you so we insult, blackmail, etc. in order to control someone.

That's bullying behavior. I can admit that and I think the biggest step is for everyone to admit that's something that we call could and would do, even if we'd never throw someone into a locker.

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
Except you don't have any way to assert control when the other person can very easily just ignore you and never have to read another thing you post ever again. If they choose not to, that's their problem.

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
-6/10

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Nope, being serious.

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