[ SECRET POST #2097 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2097 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 06 pages, 129 secrets from Secret Submission Post #300.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

08. http://i.imgur.com/xVE0b.jpg

[astridv]

Huh, what a coincidence, just yesterday I was talking to a friend about TNG and how Guinan was my favorite character, only to learn that he hated her (and Whoopi Goldberg's work in general). Hating Guinan... it just doesn't compute.

[(Anonymous)]

I'd read that.

[(Anonymous)]

I like Guinan, except for the fact that she seems to not understand alternate timelines and that canon!Picard is not responsible for alternate!Sela's existence.

[(Anonymous)]

I always felt that Guinan was a bit cheesy and a bit goody two shoes, but she wasn't as irritating as Deanna Troi or Crusher. I never felt there was chemistry with Picard and any of the women really.

[intrigueing]

Fandom has a hate-boner for Guinan

[nynaeve_sedai]

I don't hang out in TNG fandom, so I don't know anything about hating on Guinan. I always liked her. :: shrugs ::

And yeah, I can see chemistry between them :)

[ginainthekingsroad]

This 'shop had me cackling. Do you have a full version of that without the secret on it?? :'D Thanks for that, OP.

[(Anonymous)]

*shrugs* Write it anyway. I've shipped plenty of unpopular pairings and characters; nothing bad ever happened to me other than that I got fewer readers for those stories (which I was expecting to happen, so it didn't really bug me). And the readers who also ship your rare and unloved pairing will be super appreciative, which imo makes up for the smaller audience.

[kateshort]

LOVE the artwork for this secret!!!

[(Anonymous)]

Fandom has a hate-boner for Guinan

[ryttu3k]

...People hate Guinan? :(

[celestinenox]

Fandom hates Guinan? Huh. Why?

Also, I could totally see Picard/Guinan.

[omens]

WHO THE HECK HATES GUINAN?? D: D: (I shipped Picard with Dr Crusher too hard to consider this at that time but uhhh, looking back? I'm for it. Write that fic, anon!!)

[(Anonymous)]

Wow. I was never in the fandom, so it never occurred to me that people wouldn't like Guinan. I wonder why? Personally, I'm not really a Whoopi Goldberg fan, but I liked Guinan.

And that's interesting about P/C being "the" TNG ship - I didn't know that either. I'm not a fan, so I guess it's good I never was in the fandom. I just am not really a fan of Beverly. Actually, it'd be more accurate to say that I'm not a fan of Gates McFadden's acting (not going to call her a bad actress - just saying it didn't work for me).

[(Anonymous)]

Obv everyone's experience in fandom is different, but I kinda wonder where you hang out?

I've been in TNG fandom for 15 years, and I think don't think I've ever heard a bad word about Guinan. Not even at TrekBBS where hating on the women of TNG is a popular hobby.

[omorka]

You know, I tend to see Guinan as a bit on author-insert character, but beyond that I never found her annoying. And I tend to ship Q with both her and Picard, in a hatesexy sort of way.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm rewatching TNG on Netflix now, and I just saw the ep where the group goes back in time to be trolled by Mark Twain... there was a lot sub/text happening between Picard and Guinan there. I could see it.

[forgottenjester]

1) I thought those handful of fics I found that hated on Guinan were... outliers or seomthing. Now I'm really dissapointed. I liked Guinan a lot. I loved that she was the "wise woman" but wasn't perfect and made mistakes. The fact that the character everyone comes to for advice could be prejudiced and then admit that and try to change, grow as a person, was huge to me. I think it was the first I had encountered like that. Also, her past was mysterious and I absolutely adored the scene with Q because it implied she had power she chose not to use normally. I've found I've always been drawn to characters who have phenominal powers but don't use them unless they absolutely need too. I don't know. I really loved her character.

2) It took me forever to figure out what P/C was. Oh hey Crusher. I both liked and disliked her character. This is probably why I preffered P/Q.

[(Anonymous)]

I've never liked Guinan much, but I don't hate her or anything. Can't really see her with Picard though, they seem really platonic to me.

[(Anonymous)]

FANDOM HATES GUINAN?!??

WHY WOULD ANYONE, ANYONE HATE GUINAN??????

[(Anonymous)]

Every person who doesn't love every single woman on this show who isn't Deanna is watching it wrong.

[ex_mek82]

I never cared for Whoopi all that much, but I can separate the person from the character they're playing in this case, b/c I liked Guinan, at least. She was really cool and I felt she and Picard had some great chemistry. If I could bring myself to ship Picard with anyone, it'd probably be her (though don't get me wrong, I also like Crusher, too).

[honestys_easy]

I have nothing to add except that I love this painting and I absolutely adore this 'shop.