[ SECRET POST #2104 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2104 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[saiika_von_maou]

I tend to wonder how many people legitimately fit into this category. I, personally, have been part of a fandom that giggled and made up reasons for why "this pairing is totally canon;" but none of it was in seriousness and all of it was just for fun. Still, it's not like anyone ever asks if people really believe their ship is canon, and it's not like anyone ever offers up this information, especially when it's all a big inside joke to them.

This is just me being curious, though.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree. I've been in more than my fair share of fandoms and none of them have been exactly overrun by delusionals who were convinced that noncanon pairs were actually canon. You're always going to get a few who just are Not Watching the Same Show, but they tend to be few and far between. I'm sure there are some fandoms where fans like those are more prevalent than has been the case in my various fandoms, buuuut, I have gotten my sticky fingerprints all over a lot of fandoms over the years, so I'd be surprised if it were true of the majority of fandoms and I just happened to get lucky EVERY TIME I poked my nose into a new one.

Those fans do make a lot of noise, though, and that's a fact. Even when I ship the same pairing, they make me sink down in my seat a bit and pull my baseball cap down over my face, so to speak.

If they're just in their own journal or likeminded friends' journals and comms and tumblrs, squeeing about how that hug means it's totally canon omg!, though, live and let live. Glad they're having fun.

[saiika_von_maou]

Oh, yes, no question we made a lot of noise. We tended to keep it within our community, though, so it wasn't terrible for anyone else. I do think that's where the line gets blurry, though; the fact that fans like that are so vocal that they SOUND delusional if you're not aware that they're not.

[(Anonymous)]

I've seen it in certain femslash fandoms. Recently, there was a poll in some website/blog about which "suitor" fans preferred for one half of the non-canon OTP, so the fandom gathered the troops for everyone to vote for the "Other" option because it was outrageous that the other half of the OTP wasn't even included (even though the character that was the subject of the poll has never been established as anything other than straight). People were pretty riled up/offended over that, and not in a joking way. They even attacked the organizer of the poll when she dared to say that the pairing was never going to happen.

So yeah, certain people/fandoms do take it pretty far.

[taimoset.livejournal.com]

Whoa, what fandom was that?!

[(Anonymous)]

I think sometimes inside jokes don't come across as jokes to people who aren't in on them, so someone saying, "HDU disparage their epic love!! >:(" and "Anyone who doesn't ship this must be bliiind!" can read as hostile rather than hyperbolic and lolzy when posted in a public space. And when this is pointed out, even people who were just being lolzy to start with may get defensive about their ship. I've definitely accidentally gotten into internet arguments that way.

[saiika_von_maou]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. As I said, it's not like anyone outright asks whether it's serious or not, and no one with the inside joke shares the information to begin with. The curse of the internet; no one knows what you're doing unless you outright say it.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Exactly! Especially when there is so much hyperbole in places like tumblr that capslock becomes normal speech, so if you're coming from outside, it may look like EVERYONE IS JUST YELLING AT EACH OTHER ALL THE TIME.

[(Anonymous)]

I've been in "oh, this pairing is SO canon :wink wink:" and "we're all smoking dope but seriously these two would be so great together" fandoms, but I've finally found myself in a fandom where I actually, honestly, seriously, 100% believe that the life path for my ship as intended by the author is for them to get together romantically. The A-plot of the series basically boils down to "get him in my life", the anime climaxes with their reunion, the manga gives their reunion a title-drop, and despite all of the incredibly intense "getting his attention on me is the most important thing in my life" speeches and other typical shounen features, it was the sweet little look with lowered-lashes that the protagonist's object of obsession gifts him with at the end of the anime (and in the equivalent manga chapter) that pushed me over into "whoa, he totally knows he's crushing on the protagonist; wonder when the protagonist's going to notice?" territory. At first I felt super goofy for drinking the kool-aid and becoming One Of Those Fen, but I really can't view the series any other way now.

[stainless]

This. I'll say "Megatron/Starscream is so canon," but what I mean is "I really do think the writers are aware of the shipping, and put in fanservicey hints." Because, well, I do think that. But that doesn't mean I think that people are supposed to interpret two evil robots as dating one another and if they don't I take issue with them.

So uh, who's saying this and what do they mean?

[(Anonymous)]

I kinda wonder that too. You get a shit ton of this stuff in KPop fandom; and a lot of the shipper squee is typical slasher stuff, "AWWWW yeah, that is awesome fanservice, they are totally doing it!"

...and then you have lots and lots of people who seem to...genuinely believe it. The kind of people who have to comment on every video with one of the people, "Oh, X is so missing Y, you can tell by the way he adjusts his collar!" or "lol, it was so sweet of him to get a boner when that lady gave him a lap dance, he's so dedicated to covering his romance with Y!"