[ SECRET POST #2116 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2116 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Deacon Frost, Blade]


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[Legend of Korra]


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[Luke Wilson]


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[Transformers: Shattered Glass]


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[marvel comics]


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[The Walking Dead]


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[Jackass]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 020 secrets from Secret Submission Post #302.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

15. http://i.imgur.com/Gd7T5.jpg

[mekkio]

Who did the art for the secret? It looks almost like Bryan O'Malley.

[ex_mek82]

That's because Bryan O'Malley is the artist for that picture/cover. I think he posted about it on his Tumblr or something, too.

[dethtoll]

Yeah that made me wonder what (Brian Lee) O'Malley was up to these days myself. Seems he's working on something called SECONDS. I'm all over that.

[miarrow]

The awesomeness of that cover just makes me even more wrecked (and pissed off) that Eli isn't in the comic anymore. I can't read it anymore.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm kind of on both sides of the fence on this one - I adore kid!Loki and am SO glad that he's going to be around (and that Kieron Gillen is still writing him), but I am pretty sad about the lack of Tommy and Eli in the new book. Although it does seem like Gillen has hinted at Tommy, at least, making a re-appearance, so here's hoping they both show up at some point in a spectacular way.

Also forever bitter that they killed of Cassie. But that's not the new book's fault, and I'm really excited to see what they do with it.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm excited and also terrified for this! Terrified because Teddy and Billy are my happy, fluffy OTP (they are the one pair I've never managed to do anything remotely angsty for) and I'm worried about how their relationship will be handled. But still. Excited!

... Does anyone know when it's going to be coming out, though? I keep hearing people say "yay new comic!" but no one actually saying when it's going to come out. @__@

[(Anonymous)]

The release date is in January, I think?

[deadtree]

I laugh every time I see this because Loki reminds me of this

[fromherbones]

I will never be able to unsee this, and it is fantastic.

(Is he perhaps burdened with glorious... booty...?)

[(Anonymous)]

this is probably the obvious answer but: maybe because their favorite character can't be partners/friends with him because they're not in it?

[muccamukk]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know how much excitement you can really expect your friends to have about a comic that isn't even coming out very soon. I guess there's preview images and stuff, but it isn't like there's a whole bunch of stuff to talk about.

Also, if you're friends are experienced comic readers, I just don't think they'd feel the need to be too thrilled for you over Kid Loki. He's a new character that has been appearing pretty regularly. If I was one of your friends, it probably wouldn't register to me that it was a big deal to you.

[honestys_easy]

I understand Eli's absence in the new series, since he officially left Young Avengers at the end of Children's Crusade. (I would have liked to see him return, but at least I understand it.) But Tommy? Tommy was all about keeping the band together. At the end of CC he didn't even know how to "slow down" and not be part of a superhero team. I'll be disappointed if he never shows up somewhere down the line.

[(Anonymous)]

I read somewhere on Tumblr that there was a good reason for Tommy´s absence. Maybe he´ll join later or he´ll be in other superhero team for the time being.

Anyway, Billy and Teddy are my favorite, so I´m happy we´ll see more of them. :D

[(Anonymous)]

and what is this 'good reason'?

[b_dangerous]

Isn't that Tommy with Kate? I'm fairly certain he'll return later on.

I'll miss Eli, though. I really would love to see him more active in the Captain America books, though.

[(Anonymous)]

I think that's supposed to be Noh Varr, their new alien. He does REALLY look like Tommy there, though.

I hope Eli comes back somewhere! I liked him, and his story.

Kate is in the new Hawkeye

[jazzypom]

So she's busy crushing on Clint, really. :P

[(Anonymous)]

tbh, as a YA fan, I.. don't know how I feel about the new series coming out. I really, really don't like how the authors talk about Billy (they go on about how ~privileged~ he is compared to Teddy because hey, he still has his parents, let's just ignore everything he went through in Children's Crusade completely) and feel like they're going to pull a lot of shit with his character that has the potential to seriously ruin him (they're talking about making him fuck up "Hank Pym style"* and subsequently "realize" how good he has it or some shit**).

I don't like how they talk about Teddy "going behind Billy's back" to keep doing superhero stuff. I REALLY don't like where it looks like they're taking their relationship, because they're pretty much the #1 gay couple in comics right now - and definitely #1 for young adult and kid comics - and it sounds like they're basically going to make it a relationship based in keeping secrets from each other and such bullshit, and I do not like that. What I loved about YA in its first run was how Billy and Teddy's relationship was never part of the drama - it was never used as plot or drama fodder. It doesn't look like the new team will keep to that trend.

I really don't like that Tommy won't be there. As others said, he was ALL ABOUT still being a team. But if they make his absence part of the plot and he comes back, I'll be okay with that. Still, I hate it, especially since he's my girlfriend's favorite.

I'm not sure how I feel about Miss America yet. On one hand, I get that Eli is gone and they wanted a new "America-themed" character, but I don't like that they're having her come in to apparently lead the team(?) (because, y'know, team leader must always be ridiculously patriotic-themed) when she's the newb (to the team, I mean). I would have liked to see Kate come back and take over the team leader position, but the creative team here seems like they're kind of discounting Kate because she doesn't have powers. Crappy. I like that Miss America is not white and that she seems pretty badass.

Noh Varr... I'm gonna have to see before I even really consider liking. In the interview he sounded so completely unlikeable that I don't know why they'd put him in there.

Above all, I don't like that the team is making the "Young Avengers" series.. not only about the Young Avengers. They said it'd be a few issues of just them, and then they're gonna go look at other young superheroes and teams, like the Runaways, etc., and... if you're doing a series on ALL teen/young superheroes, don't call it Young Avengers. Because people are gonna go in expecting, y'know, the Young Avengers, and if you don't plan on delivering, just stop.

(I also don't like that Kid Loki apparently manipulates Miss America - and everybody else - into being in the Young Avengers, or being in the team again. I think that's really... shitty. I don't like it as a plot device at all.)

* Comparing Hank Pym to anyone should be considered an insult of the highest order. I mean, seriously.

** I HATE THIS. Billy has been through some shit. Yes, he still has a home and parents. His family is even rather well-off! THAT DOESN'T MEAN HE HASN'T BEEN THROUGH SHIT. Like a huge identity crisis, like accidentally hurting a bunch of people and having literally everyone decide you're better off locked in a closet for the rest of your life. Having even the people you love and who love you and your biggest idols in your whole life decide you're too dangerous to be around. Finding out your real mother is the woman responsible for decimating the mutant population. And so on.

It can be argued that Billy hasn't been through as much as Teddy, and definitely that the tragedy Teddy went through should have been dealt with more and better, but that doesn't invalidate what happened to Billy. Last time I checked, bad shit happening to people wasn't a contest and there wasn't a winner, and no one has to get PUNISHED for going through depression as a result of seriously awful shit happening and not.. what, snapping out of it because, "Hey, I might have had all this terrible shit happen to me but my parents are still around"? That's bullshit. And that's essentially what the new YA team seems to be saying, along with some idiots on Tumblr. And it kind of enrages me, as someone who has suffered depression and been told - probably by the same kinds of people who are making this comic and going on tumblr talking about how what Billy went through doesn't matter - that I should just snap out of it because hey, at least I have a computer, and food, so I have no reason to be depressed. Fuck that.

OH GOD DO I HAVE ENOUGH FEELINGS.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree that Billy has been through some major shit, but I don't think that the new team thing that Billy needs to be punished specifically for having depression--I think they just want to put him in a situation where he gains some perspective about past actions. Having depression doesn't give you a pass on doing things that hurt other people, and Billy has made some major mistakes, and those mistakes got two of his teammates killed. Those mistakes weren't the direct results of his depression, either--they were the result of him going out and, against the advice of almost everyone, trying to "fix" things. I think it was well-intentioned and that Billy really just wants to help people, but he needs to learn to take a minute and think through his actions a bit. I think his depression at the end of Children's Crusade was maybe a start to that, but it would be nice if he continued to grow in that direction and realize that just because he has the power to do what he wants most of the time doesn't mean that he should--even when his intentions are good.

I can understand why you're upset because I've struggled with depression for a really long time, and people can and will be total and complete shits about it. It sucks that people on Tumblr have been saying shitty things about depression in general, and I'm sorry you've had to read it. But I really don't think the team are saying that Billy still has parents and therefore Billy shouldn't be depressed. I think that comment was mostly trying to show that they think Billy needs to stop and think beyond himself a bit more often, and consider that maybe he's not the only one with issues. I love Billy, but as a whole, his teammates--and especially Teddy--do let him get away with being a bit too inward-focused. That doesn't invalidate what he's been through or his depression, or mean that he can't be hurting just because other people are, too.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm the anon somewhere upthread *waves vaguely* who said I'm both excited and terrified for this. The "terrified" bit? Pretty much because of everything you've said here, re: Billy and Teddy. There's just so much potential for them to be completely and utterly screwed up!

I loved that Billy and Teddy didn't do the whole relationship DRAMA thing that Marvel seems to default to all the time, and I'm worried that that's the direction this new series will take. I have to admit, I've been avoiding interviews about this precisely because the more little bits I hear, the more I freak out about how Billy and Teddy will be handled. I really only read that one interview where it was said that Teddy was sneaking around superheroing behind Billy's back, which - eh, that could be done either really well or really badly, so I've got my fingers crossed. But then it went on to say that Billy'll make a big mistake because of that and that made me just wince in fear. The constant in Billy's/Teddy's lives thus far has been... each other. Even when what they thought they knew about their families gets upended, they're just constantly there for each other, and I hate to think that they might have Billy screw that up somehow.

I don't do tumblr and like I said, I've been avoiding any other interviews, so I've fortunately escaped any commentary on Billy's depression. But what you've said people are saying? That is all so. much. bullshit. You're absolutely right - tragedy isn't a contest! Billy's been through plenty of shit, and invalidating his depression (especially with such a specious argument!) makes me pretty damn furious. I'm just - I have too many feelings about this, so I won't get into it, but... I agree with you. Just thought you should know. =P

[Also. Billy screwing up HANK PYM STYLE? WHAT IS THIS NONSENSE OH GOD.]

[(Anonymous)]

As much as I love them, I wouldn't mind a bit of drama in the Billy/Teddy relationship, because a perfect couple that never fights is boring as hell. At least there's no talk of cheating or breaking up or fridging.

[dazzledfirestar]

Honestly, I won't speak to most of this because YA has never been my thing BUT Kate is playing a sizable role in the new Hawkeye series so that might have something to do with her not being front and center here. I'm not saying it's a good reason, but it might have played a part in the decision making process.

As for your comments on past canon events... thank you for once again living up to the idea that YA fans don't care about the rest of the universe. Bravo.

[(Anonymous)]

Tell then to just be glad they aren't in Avengers Arena and suck it up.