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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-11-18 02:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #2147 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2147 āŒ‹

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[personal profile] wldcatsprstr_14 2012-11-18 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL Such a troll.

As far as I know, from reviews and word of mouth, 'Twilight' was written by a woman who's pretty much Puritan in terms of sexuality.

As someone who's into the BDSM lifestyle and who has read parts of 'Fifty Shades,' I can honestly say that book is porn + handcuffs + terriblewriting. If you wanna get off to bad porn, it's for you. That's about all it's good for. Doesn't really teach anyone anything about BDSM.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-18 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
But how the hell can ANYONE get off on things like this:

ā€œI want you to become well acquainted, on first name terms if you will, with my favorite and most cherished part of my body. I’m very attached to this."

Or a woman who, in the middle of being seriously turned on, chooses "jeez" as the word worth uttering in an internal monologue?

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[personal profile] wldcatsprstr_14 2012-11-18 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, I did say 'if you wanna get off to bad porn.' LOL

(Anonymous) 2012-11-18 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
It'd be more disturbing if he weren't attached to it.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-18 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
~starts singing 'Detachable Penis'~

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[personal profile] vethica 2012-11-19 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
I read a hentai like that once!
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[personal profile] insolentwitch 2012-11-18 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't believe that line got by an editor. When it got popular, I thought about giving this book a try. After reading about it on F!S I can't picture spending money on it.
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2012-11-18 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously, the more I read about this Christian douche, the more I think he's too ridiculously up his own arse to be attractive. Yeah, most of us know what a penis is, I'm sure even virginal innocent Ana or whatever she's called knows enough...no need to wave it in her face like it's something she should be in awe of like she's never heard of one before.

Ana knows nothing

(Anonymous) 2012-11-19 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, Ana is kind of ridiculously innocent, in a way that tends to crop up a lot in romance novels, especially historical romance novels. There's more variety in that sort of writing now, but it used to be practically a requirement that the women in romance novels were completely ignorant of their own bodies, much less men's.

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(Anonymous) 2012-11-18 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
If someone said that to me, I would have a hard time not telling them to go away if they want to stay attached to it. Jeez, what a pretentious douche.

[personal profile] lovelycudy 2012-11-19 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Is that really a quote? Like... really?

(Anonymous) 2012-11-18 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Doesn't really teach anyone anything about BDSM.
Yes, and? Who said it should?
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[personal profile] wldcatsprstr_14 2012-11-18 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
It should at least be an accurate portrayal. Write about whatever you like but be true to the subject matter you're using.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-18 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
It's more like it teaches people how to enter into abusive relationships under the guise of BDSM.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-18 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Or at least add a damned disclaimer right above the first chapter that states that though the author has chosen to write about an BDSM relationship, she knows fuck all about being in one or the mechanics of how it works BECAUSE IT'S JUST A BOOK YOU GUYS!!!

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(Anonymous) 2012-11-18 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
SMeyer may be a puritan herself, but the whole outrage reeks of puritanism itself. Tons and tons of misogynist material around, but all of a sudden when it's something for young girls and about a young girl wanting someone, it's unacceptable. Making sure that all the silly little girls like the proper things, even when it's fiction. But it's all for their own good!
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[personal profile] visp 2012-11-18 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not like a young girl wrote the books.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-18 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
No, but I don't really give a damn about Meyer. I'm more annoyed by the fact that girls (hell, even grown women for that matter) are continually vilified and sneered at for, horror of horrors, liking something. Or just being told that they're wrong and that they need to be protected from a book. As if noone in the world had ever liked something shit and problematic.

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(Anonymous) 2012-11-18 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
People do complain about other misogynistic material, it's just that Twilight is so popular that a lot of people have read it, so a lot of people are in a position to critic it.

Also, it's not a problem that a girl wants someone (there are a lot of books where the woman wants someone, maybe not as many as were she's pursued, but Twilight isn't the only one or something) - it's that the books show the girl wanting guys who treat her like an object and act in very, very sketchy ways towards her.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-18 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
People do complain about other misogynistic material, it's just that Twilight is so popular that a lot of people have read it, so a lot of people are in a position to critic it.

What about all the hugely successful films were women are just left in the sidelines and/or casually objectivied? Oh, sure, people mention it now and then. But still, it's never the fan(boy)s' fault for going to see it in their droves, and no-one would dream of explaining to them that it's wrong.
With Twilight though, it's completely OK to mock the fans and consider them complete morons.

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(Anonymous) 2012-11-18 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Considering that the 'proper things' in this context include not being in a controlling, abusive, stalkery relationship, IDK what your problem is.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-18 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Considering that the one thing all the Twilight-bashing has taught me is that the real problem about controlling, abusive, stalkery relationships isn't men being controlling, abusive and stalkery, but actually young women reading about it... yes, I have a problem with that.

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(Anonymous) 2012-11-19 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you! I've never read Twilight and doubt I would like it if I did, but that's one the things that annoy me the me the most about the haters. The whole attitude that girls and women need to be protected from these dangerous books and are too stupid to tell the difference between fantasy and reality.

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(Anonymous) 2012-11-19 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
What do you think the "proper things" are? The "Twilight" series aren't just centered on "a young girl wanting someone," they're centered on a stupid teenager wanting to enter an bizarre relationship with an idealized stalker.