[ SECRET POST #2150 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2150 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Ooh, please, do explain how I've invalidated myself, oh champion of misogynist insults.

[(Anonymous)]

You do know that cunt is typically used towards males, right? In an endearing way, yeah? Please tell me you know that and haven't been foaming at the mouth because you thought it was a word somehow used to magically suppress women's rights? You really do know that it isn't used as a derogatory term in England, right? Right?!

[(Anonymous)]

Oh my fucking god.

I can't... are you trolling? Please tell me you're trolling, this argument you're trying to make is so fucking pointless and nonsensical...

Okay. Okay. I have to ask. Why are you so invested in defending this word? Why is it so important to you that people quit bringing up the context of it being a word about female genitalia that is used as a swear? Why is it so fucking important to you to completely ignore the context of women being oppressed by men, of part of that oppression being that insults relating to women and women's body parts being used to insult men (IT'S INSULTING BECAUSE IT COMPARES THEM TO A WOMAN FUCK THIS IS NOT HARD), and of insults being occassionally used between friends as terms of endearment? Why? What horse do you have in this race? What do you gain from pretending cunt as an insult isn't misogynist?

[(Anonymous)]

There are not people here bringing up the context of it being a word about female genitalia, there is only you. There are rather a lot of us pointing out to you that where we live it doesn't have the same context. I'm not defending it, I'm telling you that we will continue to use the words we do in the contexts we do so long as it pleases us. You want to say it has another context, then fine. Go on believing that. It's utter crap that defies truth, but go right on believing it.

[(Anonymous)]

I keep bringing it up because you can't just fucking erase that context when you're talking about why a word is sexist or not.

[insanenoodlyguy]

Yes you can. Several of did!

[(Anonymous)]

You can, but it completely invalidates whatever point you're trying to make.

PS aren't you a guy?

Get the fuck out of this conversation, it has nothing to do with you.

[(Anonymous)]

Anyway, so basically your response here is "because I don't care about sexism, stop talking about it!!!!"

[(Anonymous)]

And your response is "I say so and I know better" about the use of a word in its country of original and in a cultural context where it is not considered sexist and we're supposed to defer to your opinion, is that right?

[(Anonymous)]

There is no fucking cultural context where cunt is not sexist.

There are only people forgetting it's history and divorcing it from the wider context of sexism in the English language.

[(Anonymous)]

Why are you so invested in policing the language of another country? Why is it so important to you? Stop telling people to be offended by something they don't find offensive.

[(Anonymous)]

I am invested in pointing out sexism in language because it is something that affects me. I don't give a fuck if people don't personally find it offensive - whatever, not everyone has the energy to get offended by the same things as everyone else - but I would really appreciate it if people didn't claim that just because they don't find it offensive that means it's magically not sexist because it fucking is.

[(Anonymous)]

Sez you. Where you live. No UK holidays for you, in that case.

[(Anonymous)]

The only point you seem to be trying to make anywhere in this thread is "bawww you're wrong because England"

It would probably help make you look like less of a sexist troll if you had something other than that in your material, just saying.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, it affect you. Well then, I'll just get on my bike and start spreading the word all across the Isles. Might take me a bit. Someone else will have to notify the applicable Colonies.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, it's so funny that women get mad about sexism. So funny. Haha. Stupid bitches, amirite?

[diet_poison]

Society is made up of the sum of its people. Apparently, plenty of people no longer find the word "cunt" sexist. One day maybe nobody will. Your opinion doesn't automatically trump everyone else's. Nobody is saying you're not allowed to find a word sexist, but you're sitting here screaming that everyone else DOES have to find it sexist. Also, nobody is ignoring historical connotations and all that, some people just decide, after taking them into consideration, that the word as they hear it used today isn't sexist.

"Cunt" is definitely used as a sexist term at times, absolutely. But not every use of the word is a sexist use.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, if people are using it in a reclamatory way or to refer to their own body part as a descriptor, of course it's not sexist.

But that's not the usage that the people in this thread have been talking about, so...

[(Anonymous)]

you have the right to be offended. you do NOT, on the other hand, have the right to demand that random people on an internet forum stop using a word that you think is sexist just because it offends you. if you don't like it, then you have every right to go somewhere else, but you don't get to tell other people what they are and aren't allowed to do or say unless it isn't legal.

[(Anonymous)]

And jsyk there are plenty of people in England that regard it as sexist.

SO.

[(Anonymous)]

I've been trying to figure who these people might be. I only just now looked at the page info and saw that this was posted by the same IP address as the BUT IT'S STILL A VAGINA anon's.

[(Anonymous)]

F!s doesn't log IP address. Are you sure you aren't seeing dreamwidth's ip address or something?

[(Anonymous)]

DA I'm English,too, mate, and is definitely IS used as an insult, and the whole point of using it against men is because it associates them with something female and lesser.

Surely you know this? Right? Right?! It's basic, elementary stuff.

Astonishing.

[(Anonymous)]

so, you honestly think the thought process when calling someone a wee cunt is "oh, I am comparing my friend to a woman's dirty genitals, which are base and disgusting and just about the worst thing you can call someone, therefore rendering him soiled and lesser"?

Sometimes cunt is just cunt is just cunt. When I say "fuck you", I don't mean I want to have sex with you. When I say "Goodbye" (God be with you), I'm not literally bestowing a blessing.