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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-30 06:19 pm

[ SECRET POST #2189 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2189 ⌋

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[personal profile] ariakas 2012-12-30 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I... think it was Saruman. The White.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-12-30 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-30 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
They trolling, you think? Or after all this time, somebody still hasn't at least wiki'd the source material?

(Anonymous) 2012-12-30 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
lmao best response
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[personal profile] nynaeve_sedai 2012-12-31 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
+1

I love it :D

(Anonymous) 2012-12-30 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I was headscratching at Gandalf myself at first, even though in retrospect it wasn't that big a change. NEW HEADCANON! Wizards age in reverse!
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[personal profile] mekkio 2012-12-30 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
If it worked for Merlin...
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[personal profile] wldcatsprstr_14 2012-12-30 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Pretty sure they're calling him that cuz he's Saruman the White.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-30 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure what you're saying here? Is your complaint that the now 90 year old actor doesn't look like he did before?

(Anonymous) 2012-12-30 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Um...because he was? Wizards have some sort of color rank as far as I can tell. Saruman was called The White at the beginning of the LOTR series, and Gandalf started out as the Grey, but leveled up.
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DAMMIT GUNTERGAST

[personal profile] chardmonster 2012-12-30 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
You smell like mushrooms, what's wrong with you

Edited 2012-12-30 23:37 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2012-12-30 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Because that's who he is?

I do not understand this secret... :\

OP

(Anonymous) 2012-12-30 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
My issue was that his character wasn't anything even similar to who Sauruman the White was supposed to be. He was more like Sauruman of Many Colours only more of a douchebag. Sauruman the White is supposed to be good, and yet he was apparently so untrustworthy that Gandalf was hiding things from him.
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[personal profile] brightblueink 2012-12-30 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
....Really? I didn't get the impression that Gandalf was hiding the sword for him, just waiting for the right moment, and the worst thing Saruman did was complain about Radaghast (which I think he does in one of the books anyway?) He wasn't being obviously evil like in LOTR.

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-30 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure this is as a result of the Hobbit being made after the LOtR, and them wanting to keep the character consistent. Probably the ring will be treated as something potentially significant later on too,despite the fact that at this point it was only recognised as a minor magical ring of invisibility.

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-30 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
That's reasonable. I haven't reread any of the books recently enough to be picky about details, so I put it down to showing the seeds of his eventual face-heel turn

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[personal profile] arcadiaego 2012-12-31 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
He ran out of Ariel tablets, ok, it's a stressful time.
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[personal profile] fuchsiascreams 2012-12-31 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
0/10

(Anonymous) 2012-12-31 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
You should probably go back and read the first three Harry Potter books. It's all there.

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-31 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
Saruman the White, played by Christopher Lee, same as in the Lord of the Rings. Yep, back in The Hobbit he was still a good guy.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-31 05:43 am (UTC)(link)
I'm wondering if people are getting screwed up because the Hobbit came out after the Lord of the Rings. I mean, we all know Saruman turns evil, so we automatically construe his actions in the Hobbit as blatant foreshadowing to his turning, when in actuality, he'd been turning for decades before LotR, and it's not all that blatant. IMO he just seemed typical bossman, writing off Radaghast as crazy and not taking the threats seriously, because he 'knows better'. It didn't strike me as particularly evil, just egotistical.

/end rant
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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2012-12-31 11:36 am (UTC)(link)
You didn't watch LotR, did you?

Long story short: There were five Wizards (or Istari - basically Maiar (demi-gods, angels, whatever) in the form of Men come to help fight the Dark Lord in Middle-earth) - two Blue who went off to distant lands and were never seen again, Radagast the Brown who got on with birds and animals, Gandalf the Grey who did his best to learn about all races, and Sauruman the White who was their leader and had a very hypnotic voice.

Saurman got too big for his britches and got ambitious and eventually got his place as "The White" replaced by Gandalf after Gandalf's near-Mandos experience.

(Mandos is the Valar (higher demi-god, archangel, whatever) of death. His given name is Námo and Mandos is an epithet that is also the name of his house.)

TL;DR Watch LotR, preferably the extended edition. You'll see Saruman there. Also, Christopher Lee rocked that role.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-31 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't even watch the hobbit but I fucking knew it was saruman when i saw the pic, you troll

but if you have and issue with not remembering important characters well im sorry

try using wikipedia at some point before watching a movie or after idek
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[personal profile] htebazytook 2013-01-01 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
Can we just talk about how he was introduced prior to this in The Hobbit?