[ SECRET POST #2196 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2196 ⌋

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Comments

[insanenoodlyguy]

This is the stupidest fucking reason to watch anything I've ever heard.

Why should OP dedicate approximately 12 hours or so of their life to something they have no interest in?

I'm in the homestuck fandom and I'm less pushy then this. Jesus christ.

[visp]

Nah, cultural education is a valid reason to study something.

[insanenoodlyguy]

This isn't cultural education. It's a fucking scifi show referenced in certain niche's.

That is not a culture no matter how much some nerds desperately want it to be.

[(Anonymous)]

I've seen it used in board games and references on television. I think it counts as "minor pop culture" if nothing else.

[insanenoodlyguy]

Pop culture and culture are very different.

Star Wars is culture. Like it or not, it's famous. Gone with the Wind is culture.

Firefly, though I do love it, is at best a cult hit that is relatively unknown and not all that popular.

Nobody is going to open a history book 30 years from now and see "I'll be in my bunk" talked about. This is not necessary cultural research and suggesting to OP otherwise is arrogance at best.

[(Anonymous)]

I love Firefly and still find myself seconding this. This sort of thing is why non-Firefly fans hate Firefly fans.

[(Anonymous)]

Nobody suggest that every single person in the world should know about this. But if you are a fan of a certain genre, and OP said they're a sci-fi fan, it usually pays off to know the classics of that genre so you understand the references. And most sci-fi fans consider Firefly a classic of the genre.

This is not about some elitist OMFG CULTURAL EDUCATION thing. This is about knowing what people in certain subcultures talk about, which you might want to if you're part of that subculture.

[insanenoodlyguy]

you do not need to watch an entire series to pick up on a few meme's and in jokes.

Hell, we have secrets on here about how people do that sort of shit for things they actually claim to be in the fandom of. The difference here being OP isn't a firefly fan and doesn't claim to be one, just a scifi fan. In which case some cursory research if they are really curious is all that's necessary.

[(Anonymous)]

Firefly is barely a blip on the radar of scifi or cuture.

You're just angling in another way to "OMG you gotta watch it all before you're allowed an opinion on my precious."

[(Anonymous)]

Dude, what?

There are a lot of serious sci-fi fans who consider Firefly to be mediocre at best and barely worthy of mention. Seriously, it is not well-regarded and, in some circles, it's social suicide to admit that you like it.

The idea that it's a "classic" is absolutely ridiculous and mostly a product of Joss Whedon worship than anything else. And I'm saying this as someone who actually enjoyed it.

[visp]

Twilight is culture. Just because something's crappy doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to get the references. And actually, Firefly's one of the few respected "I'm not a nerd or into scifi but I still like this," shows. It's almost like Game of Thrones for scifi (but with less blood and titties.)

[insanenoodlyguy]

As much as I hate to admit it, Twilight is indeed culture. So knowing something about twilight might be relevant cultural education. Doesn't mean you have to read the whole book.

But it'd make more sense to read that then it would be to watch all of firefly if we talk purely about "culture education"

[thene]

NO SHIT and I love Firefly.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think it's ever valid to "study" television.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree. I really like Firefly, but there are plenty of movies/TV series I don't like. If someone suggested watching all of a series just so I'd get the pop culture references, I'd think they were bonkers.

OP, you didn't enjoy it - don't worry about it. It's a TV show, that's all, and there are eleventy billion TV shows out.

[insanenoodlyguy]

Thank you sane anon.

[(Anonymous)]

12 hours. Of their entire life.

I feel bad for you if your time is so important you can't spare that just to get some jokes your friends make. :/

[(Anonymous)]

Why shouldn't their friends just not make references they know OP won't understand?

[(Anonymous)]

Why should they? Especially in a group setting where many poeple are familiar with the referenced topic, no one should make the reference because of the few who don't know it?

If that's the case, no one should make references to anything ever because other people won't know the thing being referenced. Riiiiiiiiight.

[(Anonymous)]

because it's as easy as

friend 1: "meme"

friend 2: "what does that mean"

friend 1: "explains"

friend 2: "ah, thank you. now I know."

bam problem solved

[(Anonymous)]

I feel bad for you if your friendships are so shallow that you expect every friend to spend 12 hours educating themselves on jokes that you might make.

[(Anonymous)]

HELL, I wouldn't do that. There are are much, much more important things I could do in twelve hours, and I say that as someone who LOVES Firefly.

[(Anonymous)]

My friends aren't going to ditch me just because I don't get some of their jokes...Just like I'm not going to ditch them if they don't get some of mine.

They may, however, raise their eyebrows if I forced myself through 12 hours of a show I don't like just to get a couple of stupid jokes...that I probably still won't entirely get because I didn't enjoy what I was watching. Instead, I'll save us all some pain and watch things I like. It's entertainment, not a homework assignment on what jokes exist.

[herongale]

Also, there's Know Your Meme and also, the entire internet, if someone is baffled by a reference that they feel they should know but don't.

I mean, hell, I googled "I'll be in my bunk" and not only did I find it has it's own TV Tropes page, there's also the more concise (if possibly somewhat incorrect) Urban Dictionary definition as well as the fact that the wikipedia page for the Firefly episode in question shows up as the third fucking hit if you google it. Hell, those were the top one, two, and three hits respectively.

I watch what I want to watch. I read what I want to read. I google all the rest. IT IS NOT REALLY THAT HARD TO STAY IN THE KNOW.