[ SECRET POST #2231 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2231 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

nice heroes are boring, we all want to see more jerkfaces grudgingly doing the right thing.

[(Anonymous)]

It's possible to have a "nice" hero and still be interesting. See: Spider-Man.

[(Anonymous)]

Nope.

Still boring.

[(Anonymous)]

You're in the minority on that one.

[(Anonymous)]

People are allowed to have opinions and they do not have to justify to you or anyone else why they like or do not like something. There is no vote about it.

[inkmage]

Well, sure, but - you're* on a site that're pretty much tailored to fandom discussions. Why not... y'know... discuss?

I could see the flat, one-dimensional denial/generalization if this was in response so some idiot going on about how it's SOOOO much better when the hero is a goody two-shoes, but if you're talking about it unprovoked, then why would you do so unless you wanted to start a conversation?

Basically, I feel like you walked into a garden party, announced that flowers were boring, had someone show you a flower they thought was cool, denounced that as boring too, and walked out. And the purpose of the party was to discuss various kinds of flowers and their relative merits. I'm gonna stop this metaphor before it runs away from me, or develops bad puns. But just... why would you do that?

*I'm assuming this is the same person from the beginning of the thread. If not, sorry, and you're right.

[(Anonymous)]

What? Peter Parker is a little cocky shit. That's why we love him.

But I personally adored Chris Evan's square-jawed idealism. It was refreshing.

[(Anonymous)]

Tobey Maguire's wasn't, and I realize I'm in the minority here, but I thought he was a more interesting Peter Parker than Andrew Garfield was. (nayrt btw)

[(Anonymous)]

Ehhh...I don't know. He does some pretty questionable things in the movies. But I disliked both of them.

[lunabee34]

I did too. I love how painfully sincere he is, and I love how he is the same person when he's a scrawny little weakling and when he's a super strong BAMF. That moment when pre-serum!Steve throws himself on the live grenade makes me tear up every time.

[cassandraoftroy]

Yes! Absolutely. <3

[(Anonymous)]

oh this tired-ass argument. you can make a good movie with a nice hero. but the cap one wasn't one of them

[kaijinscendre]

I don't think it has to do with a "nice" character. It is more that Captain America doesn't seem to have any flaws in that movie. Courageous. Strong. Loyal. Friendly. Born Leader. Fucking artistic. You can go on. It is just like Superman. They are *too good*. When you compare them to someone like Thor (or even Spiderman) who has character flaws, Captain America is just boring.

[(Anonymous)]

Captain America is a douche. He's one of those "My opinion is right so everyone who doesn't share it is wrong." I'm not sure it comes off in Captain America, but you can see shades of it in the Avengers, especially how he treats Tony.

[kaijinscendre]

yah. He is much more complex in The Avengers, which is why I enjoyed his character more.

[(Anonymous)]

You mean when he's got PTSD?

616!Cap may be a self-righteous douche; from what I've heard, Ultimates!Cap definitely is. But MCU!Cap is a different character, and I honestly found it refreshing that he wasn't a self-righteous, arrogant bag of dicks, because that's become so much the expectation that subverting it is novel and interesting.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

You mean when he's got PTSD?

Not to mention the scene(s?) in which he's obviously being affected by Loki's sceptre, along with the rest of the Avengers except for Tony.

For someone dealing with recent trauma plus a ton of present day emotional stress (both situational and magically-induced), I think he's doing pretty well.

[deadtree]

yeah, they didn't really get into it in CA, but I'm hoping it will come out more in CA2 now that they've established his character and brought him to the present.

[elialshadowpine]

Yeah, I actually liked Cap much more in Avengers because he seemed more well-rounded. I did like his movie though but more because I adored Peggy.

[(Anonymous)]

It is more that Captain America doesn't seem to have any flaws in that movie. Courageous. Strong. Loyal. Friendly. Born Leader. Fucking artistic.

Jealous of Peggy's and Howard's relationship (or what he imagines their relationship to be). Awkward with women...and not in a "cute" way, but in a way that's genuinely cringeworthy. Naive. Stubborn to a fault.

He's a great guy, no doubt about it, but I definitely think he has enough flaws to be a good character, as well.

[(Anonymous)]

i misread "artistic" as "autistic" and I laughed really fucking hard.

[iggy]

Jerkfaces doing the right thing are more of a cliche nowadays than nice heroes, it seems.

I found Cap really refreshing because he WASN'T that.

[cassandraoftroy]

Same here.

[(Anonymous)]

seriously there are way too many jerks in movies nowadays that are played off as so amazing because they do the right thing for once in their lives. honestly, it's much harder to do the right thing consistently with everyday things than it is to make the right choice when the fucking world is on the line.

[maverickz3r0]

Yes, thank you. I loved Cap for that.