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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-02-20 06:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #2241 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2241 ⌋

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 042 secrets from Secret Submission Post #320.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 (minorly sexual, illustrated) - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-20 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
can we replace all these secrets with "cock or gtfo" already? they're getting stupid and repetitive

none of the guys even show up to overreact and angrily defend their masculinity so it's boring

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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-02-20 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't understand this secret. But okay.

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nan: ([ffviii] Selphie - and we will ROCK)

[personal profile] nan 2013-02-20 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
You care so little that you made a secret about it!

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[personal profile] sugar_spun 2013-02-21 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
You can think what you like, but it's rather unfair of you to be deriding fans based upon something you're completely guessing?

But my guess is you want wank.
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2013-02-21 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
lol
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[personal profile] sabotabby 2013-02-21 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Didn't we already have this wank?

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-21 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Oooookay. Possibly it's because I haven't been paying attention, but I have never seen female fans enthusing over the genitalia of male fans. Enthuse over the genitalia of fictional characters, actors, performers, celebrities, and even miscellaneous public figures, yes. Other fans? I've never seen anything more detailed than "X is hot".

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[personal profile] riddian 2013-02-21 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
WTF kind of circles do you run in where male fans are worshipped for being male, OP? O___o

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the funny thing is...

(Anonymous) 2013-02-21 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
for every transguy in fandom that OP was right about, there were probably two cisguys in fandom they assumed were female bcuz everyone is a girl amirite
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[personal profile] greenvelvetcake 2013-02-21 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
There are so many things wrong with this secret.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-21 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Something like 8 out of 10 guys in my fandoms are FTM. Always kinda wondered why that is. I know only one chick who's trans.

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-21 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
I have to agree with you, OP. My experiences have been similar.

Obviously, there are actual biologically male fans of things, but in the parts of fandom that *I* hang out in? Nothing but women and people who were born as women.

One of the craziest experiences of my life was being at a slash con and having a discussion about the femaleness of the space when the ONE (FtM) man there objected to that point. It really skeeved me out because here was this great female-centric subworld that was fashioned by women, for women, out of a 35+ year history of female creativity and labor.... when this person was all "LOL NOPE". Obviously, slash and fandom as a whole are not limited to women, but to act like they are somehow not one of the few spaces where women are the central actors really disturbs me.

*In b4 TRANSPHOBIA!!!!!1!1

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[personal profile] tabaqui 2013-02-21 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Um.

Who am i supposed to be genitalia-worshipping, now?
*is confused*

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[personal profile] al28894 2013-02-21 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
Didn't we already have this discussion for the last few days now?

(Anonymous) 2013-02-21 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
damn it all, i know exactly what you mean and i've been right there.

hp fandom eons ago. the wank was horrible and i felt bad for the dude for the reactions when it came out he was trans, but at the same time, i was so amused by the crestfallen female members of his posse.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-21 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Could you have worded that last part more offensively? I'm honestly curious.

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[personal profile] partialsatyr 2013-02-21 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
all i can think to comment on is just how tiny this secret is
damn its tiny. why is it so tiny.

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-21 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
this is borderline transphobic. if you aren't a troll/looking to offend people then you should keep that in mind

(Anonymous) 2013-02-21 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
pretty sure there's a lot of straight cisdudes in my fandom, but okay.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-21 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
take your wank-bait and go home, nobody cares what you think about the genitals or genders of people in fandom
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[personal profile] citrinesunset 2013-02-21 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
What stands out to me about this secret is that while you say you don't care, it seems like you do--or at least, you seem to assume other people would care.

But who cares? Yes, there are trans people who prefer to be stealth, and that should be respected. But the main problem with wondering if someone is trans is that so often, people act like trans people are presenting themselves as something that they're not, and that if you figure out that they're trans, then you've "discovered" something.

It really shouldn't be that big of a deal. Okay, so some guys in fandom are trans. I do think in some female-dominated fannish spaces, there can be a higher number of trans men than cis men. But assuming guys in female-dominated fandoms are trans is kind of like assuming that someone who uses a lot of British spelling may have grown up in a country that uses British spelling. So what?

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[personal profile] republicanism 2013-02-21 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
wait so should trans men be going stealth so that women worship their cocks or should they be open in order to get attention and cause wank? which one is more amusing to you, specifically? I NEED TO KNOW

(Anonymous) 2013-02-21 05:05 am (UTC)(link)
When have fangirls EVER been zOMG! positively enthusiastic about a (perceived)cis!male making his presence known in fandom? All I've ever seen is "Oh noez! Tis' a MAN!!! Noooooo! He's invaded our safe-space! Make him go away!"

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[personal profile] hiyami 2013-02-21 07:37 am (UTC)(link)
Just came here to say that I do know a couple of very women-dominated fandoms where the very few male fans don't get so much worshipped than getting a free pass for being obnoxious assholes. As in, they bring nothing to the fandom (fics, news, art, interesting posts), but on the other hand they expect a special treatment on the basis of their balls. And from some women, they get it.

I even had one PM-ing me on the board I was an admin of to ask me to make him a moderator, "since he's the only guy". He wasn't even a very active member and admitted he was not on the board very often, so how could he have done a proper moderating job? But nooo, apparently the fact that he had a cock was enough of a reason to make him one.

The sad thing is, when I said "lol NO" and gave my reasons (he had none of the qualities required to be a mod), and laughed about his expectations, a lot of them thought I was a man-hating bitch. The did give him a lot more attention than to female members who were equally absent from the board.

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