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⌈ Secret Post #2335 ⌋

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Comments

[fenm]

How is this even a secret? Don't a lot of people feel this way?

And yes. YES YES YES. Dear God.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know if people in general feel this way, but it is a bit odd in the context of this community, because I think everyone who talks about Sherlock Holmes on f!s agrees with this, and usually agrees with it pretty strongly.

But that doesn't make it any less true.

[fenm]

And even among those who like her as a love interest, I can't think of a situation where I've seen them get upset at those who don't want her to be.

[ladysugarquill]

I think most adaptations pushed her in the place of a love interest - even BBC Sherkock, which most book-fans adore.

[fenm]

Yeah, I only said, "a lot" because I know there are also plenty of people who like her as a love interest (or at least are okay with it). But to me, it's less a care of this being a rare opinion and more the case if it not being a terribly controversial one.

[(Anonymous)]

even BBC Sherkock, which most book-fans adore

... Really? Because that's one of the adaptations I have the most problems with, from an ACD canon standpoint. The ones that are worse are usually the ones that cheerfully admit up front that they've left the original canon behind them somewhere. Sherlock just lied with a straight face when it said it was canon compliant.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Yeah, this. I am a "book-fan" and when I was in the fandom, it was only initially that there was a sizable contingent of actual, known Sherlockians in the fandom --- as the series progressed, it became all about "teh shipping" (barf) and fans were bragging how they never read any of the Canon at all.

[fenm]

Maybe it became about the shipping becasue that's the best thing about the series?

Really, the more I think about Sherlock, the more I realize I enjoy (many of) the characters, but most of the stories don't do a thing for me. I think TGG is the only one where I like the plot itself; the rest I just watch for the characters.

[(Anonymous)]

THIS. It's fantastically well-acted but the writing is just horrid. Honestly every time I've rewatched it (which isn't that many times - 3 or 4 times) I can stand the writing and the plots less and less.

[fenm]

Yeah. Most of the time when I do watch, I just ff/skip around to the character interaction stuff...

[amber_protocol]

Oh thank god I'm not the only one who feels this way. I've only just started watching Sherlock since Elementary has finished for the season, and I've read so. many. times. about how much better the writing for Sherlock is and... it's just not? I can't even understand how he even gets to half of the conclusions he does, let alone in the split second it takes him to ~deduce the answer.

Example: I'm in the middle of watching 2x01 and he figured out that the guy by the lake was murdered by a boomerang that hit him at the exact same time that a car backfired, because the killer knew exactly when the car would backfire how? That's some bullshit logic tbh and it's annoying the fuck out of me that I'm supposed to buy it.

Not to mention 'nuff said about the shitty writing for the female characters on the show, it's why I haven't bothered to watch it until now. I've heard about Irene's awful treatment so I'm not really looking forward to seeing that. I have a feeling I'll be rewatching Elementary to see Joan's flawless and constant calling out of Sherlock to ease the pain.

[(Anonymous)]

Eh? I thought the guy at the lake was a professional boomerang thrower (or whatever they're called) and that he had thrown the boomerang, was distracted by the car backfiring, turned around and was then hit by the returning boomerang. So there wasn't a killer.

I thought it was easily the most ridiculous "case" anyway.

[amber_protocol]

Ha, maybe. I haven't finished watching it (got 40 minutes left), is it "explained" later or something? Either way it seems super contrived that he just ~happens to throw it at the exact second someone's car backfires. From what I've seen I thought it was implied that he specifically chose that moment because of the backfire, but what do I know.

But also, wasn't the boomerang in the river where the guy was killed? How could he have been hit by it if it was near the person he killed? Idk, but don't tell me if it's a spoiler lol.

[(Anonymous)]

If you've watched the scene where Sherlock explains it to Irene (at the end of which he drops onto his bed), then that's all there is to it.

I thought it was basically an accident? Like, the boomerang was coming back to the thrower anyway (after travelling quite a distance, considering he was a professional), but because he was distracted by the car and turned around he couldn't catch the boomerang and it hit him in the neck or sth. And maybe he was standing close to the river and when the boomerang fell down it landed in there?

[amber_protocol]

Ahhh. Honestly, the first time I watched it I was too busy staring at the green screen than actually listening to them. So it was an accident then, he wasn't meant to be hit? I assumed it was nefarious but maybe not? I still haven't finished the episode yet so I haven't heard why that guy was found in the boot so idk.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I don't mind shipping or sticking with an adaptation over an original. I do mind claiming said adaptation is canon compliant when ... no, it isn't really.

If you enjoy Sherlock on its own merits and get a kick out of shipping John/Sherlock, more power to you. Just ... don't tell me the show is the most accurate adaptation of ACD canon. Because I will laugh at you. Or possible rant for a while on how it really, really isn't.

[elephantinegrace]

THANK YOU!

It pisses me off so much when people turn up their noses at everything besides Sherlock, saying that it's not "canon-compliant." What, you thought that Sherlock outsmarting Irene was canon-compliant? You think that every villain turning out to work for Moriarty is canon-compliant? Are we reading the same stories?

[abharding]

Exactly. The reason Holmes admired Irene as much as he did was that she outsmarted him. True, even before he saw her as intriguing (in that he understood why men would find her attractive) - but it wasn't until she not only saw through his disguise but one bettered him by pulling her own version of it that she became "the woman."

[(Anonymous)]

I really hate it tbh. And although most of the other book-fans I talk to don't have the passionate hatred I have for it, none of seem particularly fond of it

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know if it's different for anyone else but nearly every person I've met irl isn't aware that Irene is not his canon love interest and look downright bemused when I explain that she was married(or getting married) to another guy in the book and neither her or Holmes had any kind of romantic feelings towards each other, he respected her but that's it. I'm not even a Sherlock Holmes buff and it annoys me that the romance storyline keeps cropping up in modern SH adaptations.

[fenm]

nearly every person I've met irl isn't aware that Irene is not his canon love interest

Yeah, same here... ~_~