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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-06-27 07:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #2368 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2368 ⌋

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Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 020 secrets from Secret Submission Post #337.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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lex_antonia: (Someone should have told Ned Stark)

[personal profile] lex_antonia 2013-06-27 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I've done it. I regret nothing.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-27 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Meh. I prefer BBC Sherlock. I think it has much better cases and I enjoy its character more.

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AYRT

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Re: AYRT

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[personal profile] mekkio 2013-06-27 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't bother. All you are going to do is make them dig in their heels and stick harder to their beliefs. They're not worth trolling.

Just feel sorry that they are missing a good show because they can't think beyond their tiny, tiny minds.

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I LOVE YOU!

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Re: I LOVE YOU!

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(Anonymous) 2013-06-27 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
frankly, since Elementary proved itself not to be a copycat and become a very good show, the Elementary fandom's 'HA! IN YOUR FACE' is equally as bad.
People have accepted Elementary being a different, wonderful and progressive show yet the fandom still continues to be butthurt about it...

and the initial problem was not female!watson, it was that she was no longer a doctor/in the military, which are integral to Watson's characterization, not Watson's gender.

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(Anonymous) 2013-06-27 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I won't watch it because they took away Watson's background in the military. I actually really like Lucy Liu and the idea of a female Watson as long as she and Sherlock don't fuck.

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[personal profile] gamma_orionis 2013-06-27 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
A+ use of Kanye xD

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(Anonymous) 2013-06-27 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Look, can we not?

I'm part of both fandoms, believe it or not. It's possible. And it is not a majority of Sherlock fans that are the ones that raised such a stink about Joan--it seems like it only because the Sherlock fandom is so vast that the requisite vocal asshole minority that all fandoms have (yes, even the Elementary fandom) is larger than most.

I'm not saying there hasn't been some disgusting shit spewed, but you can't just blame an entire group of people. Nerves are frayed on all sides of this fight, and so many innocent people are getting caught in the crossfire and nothing at all is actually getting done. Honest question: what is it you hope to accomplish? No one's going to have a sudden epiphany of "wow I was completely wrong and this person is completely right" just because someone's trolling them. And then there'll be backfire and everyone will victimize themselves and everyone will hate each other even more and it is just so. Fucking. Exhausting.

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elaminator: (Elementary: Sherlock & Joan)

[personal profile] elaminator 2013-06-27 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not worth it, imo.

At this point I try to stay away from people who hate either because I enjoy both and the back and forth between fandoms is just ridiculous and frustrating. Seeing people hate Elementary because Watson is a woman is irritating, but I'm fine ignoring those people and going about my day.

Trolling might feel good temporarily, but these people don't deserve the attention. It's attention they want in the first place.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-27 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Stupid question, but can't we all act like adults? I like BBC Sherlock better, but just because your Watson is not my Watson that doesn't mean that either Watson is better.

Does whole situation remind anyone else of the Ray wars from the Due South fandom? Only that was slightly more complicated because you were dealing with different groups in the same fandom versus two separate but connected fandoms.

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[personal profile] limamil 2013-06-28 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
I adore the composition of this secret! Well played indeed!!

(Anonymous) 2013-06-28 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
brb, going to write a fic where holmes and watson team up with kanye west.

/missing the point of the secret

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GIMME!

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[personal profile] transcriptanon 2013-06-28 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
[Picture of singer Kanye West from his "Imma let you finish" incident pasted on a screen-capture of the TV show "Sherlock". He's made to look as if he's interrupting Sherlock and Watson and saying through a comicbook text bubble "Yo, Martin, I'm really happy for you and I'm gonna let you finish, but Lucy Liu is the best Watson of all time!"]

I have never trolled any fandom for any reason, but after seeing how disgustingly the Sherlock fandom has behaved in reaction to Elementary casting a woman as Watson...

I am sorely tempted.

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[personal profile] htebazytook 2013-06-28 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Did you know it's possible to compare actors performing the same roles, and NOT be sexist and/or racist? Because fuck you, he won a BAFTA :D

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[personal profile] la_petite_singe 2013-06-28 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
Oh for FUCK'S SAKE. The horse is dead, his ashes have been scattered over the land. Hardly anyone in Sherlock fandom is butthurt about that anymore, since (a) it's been a while, (b) they're distracted by new set pics and (c) Elementary is actually good, and I am so sick and tired of Elementary stans, 'ironic' and otherwise, whining about ~haters. At this point they're at least as bad as Sherlock fandom. Ye gods.

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Can we just get some Lucy Liu love in this thread?

[personal profile] elephantinegrace 2013-06-28 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Instead of bashing either show, let's talk about the goddess of BAMFness.

HELL YES BITCHES

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[personal profile] rbhudson 2013-06-28 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
I hate, like absolutely HATE, being wrong, but...Elementary isn't terrible. Twist ending: I've never actually seen Sherlock, I just didn't like the idea of the female!Watson gimmick :/

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(Anonymous) 2013-06-28 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
The main thing that annoyed me about Joan is that they erased Watson's military history. There have been women in the military since WW1.

I don't see any reason for doing that. I really like Joan, but I feel erasing her defence force history is insulting to the character and women soldiers.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-28 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
Can we stop whipping this horse! It's already dead!

(Anonymous) 2013-06-28 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
In during "the Elementary fandom is just as bad!!!!"

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[personal profile] wauwy 2013-06-28 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
In during "the Elementary fandom is just as bad!!!!"

(Anonymous) 2013-06-28 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
It wasn't because of female!Watson that most of us flipped out, it was because it was a pointless American remake. The Yanks have a reputation for ruining whatever they copy from the Brits, or to a lesser extent, the Aussies. They rarely seem to be able to come up with anything good on their own so they take popular shows and dumb them down which makes them shitty.

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(Anonymous) 2013-06-28 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
So you were disgusted that people didn't just enjoy their show and let you enjoy your show, so you're going to rag on their show because you didn't like them ragging on your show? Yeah, that'll fix the problem. And I'm sure it'll end really well.

I swear, sometimes I think fandom is one big road-rage incident. Someone acts like a jerk, so someone else has to retaliate by acting like an equal or bigger jerk because they feel justified and before you know it everyone's car is on fire in a ditch and the people who just wanted to enjoy a nice drive have to stay off the road to avoid all the idiots.

So on behalf of all the Sherlock and Elementary fans who just want to enjoy and discuss their respective shows without having to pick through twenty pages of shouting over who has the better Watson (or Sherlock or setting or whatever) to find anything relevant, please don't be a jerk.
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[personal profile] biohazardgirl 2013-06-28 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
The worst part of this wank is that this time last year THE SAME WANK WAS STILL HAPPENING.

Do not feed the trolls. DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS. There is nothing interesting or creative or funny things left to say that someone has not already said about this godawful, annoying, boring as fuck wank.

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