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[iceyred]

I have a drug addict cousin who murdered her baby with meth. Now we have yet another story of some 'celebrity' (I never heard of him before this)killing himself with an overdose of drugs. And I'm supposed to feel sorry for this self-inflicted wound? No. Hell no. If you make predictably poor choices, you can expect to deal with the consequences. It's called taking responsibility.

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[(Anonymous)]

The thing is addiction is not always a consequence of taking drugs, legal or otherwise. It probably isn't even true for most cases. You can't take one example and make into the rule, that's just stupid.

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[(Anonymous)]

Man, I really envy people like you. It must be pretty amazing to be the kind of person who's never made a mistake in your life. I can't even imagine what that must be like. I guess it makes sense for you to judge people really harshly for making mistakes, though, since you never make them!

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[(Anonymous)]

Dude, you don't have to live a life free from mistakes to be pissed as hell at someone who killed their baby with meth.

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[(Anonymous)]

I'm okay with that. It's the part where they extended that to everyone else who's ever struggled with addiction that bothered me.

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[iceyred]

I've made mistakes. I also womaned up and took responsibility for them and tried to fix them. Also, I tend to think before I act and not do things that will predictably lead to my accidental death.

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[(Anonymous)]

You don't feel sorry for your drug-addicted cousin? At all?

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[wldcatsprstr_14]

I think they mean that they can't have sympathy for someone who killed themselves with drugs when someone having killed an innocent with drugs is so close to home.

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[(Anonymous)]

Probably. That comment about the baby really struck me personally so I'm a bit rattled. Sorry.

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[(Anonymous)]

I feel sorry for drug addicts right up until the point where they murder their child. Then I'm pretty much out of sympathy.

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[(Anonymous)]

+1. Just like I have sympathy for alcoholics until one of them gets drunk and kills someone with their car. No excuse.

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[(Anonymous)]

AYRT
I can understand feeling angry and bitter about that kind of thing, but I don't get having zero sympathy whatsoever. I'm drawing from my own well of experience however as someone who both lost a child and is an addict in terms of cutting and alcohol, so I'm just thinking there's probably more layers to the story than a couple of words. The level of vitriol is really startling to me.

I shouldn't have gotten involved in this thread and I'll just take my exit now.

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[iceyred]

No. I do not feel for that murderous bitch. Not one little bit.

I feel sorry for the dead baby. I pray for him.

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[(Anonymous)]

She actively chose to kill him, when sober, with premeditation?

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[(Anonymous)]

You're absolutely right. Why hasn't a single person who's died from making a bad decision ever taken responsibility for it? Fucking irresponsible dead people!

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[(Anonymous)]

Wow. Really? From the way you're acting, I'm assuming your cousin has never apologized, never felt remorse, never regretted her decision to use meth and ultimately cause her child's death. And just to be clear, she actively decided while sober to kill her baby, right? Meth is highly, HIGHLY addictive, and can cause severe psychosis and hallucinations. Of course she needs to be held accountable for her actions, but to what extent? There is a HUGE difference between someone actively deciding to murder her child in cold blood, and a woman with no reliable conception of reality accidentally poisoning her child.

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[(Anonymous)]

when someone you care about dies due to someone else's careless actions, it really doesn't make much difference to you whether that person did it in cold blood or not. it does legally of course, but at the end of the day all that matters to the family is that she did meth in the same area her child was in and it ended up killing them.

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[(Anonymous)]

I understand that - I'm angry at my heroin addict cousin who ditched his family (after stealing thousands of dollars from them) and caused his mom such horrible stress and heartache that she divorced my uncle and had a subsequent heart attack. But guess what? I still have sympathy for him. I still understand that he didn't mean for this to happen. He's remorseful, and is pulling himself together. If he was going around whining about how his parents were awful, and his life was so hard, and it wasn't his fault, then yeah, I might be less inclined to forgive that. But I highly doubt this girl who killed her baby showed zero remorse, zero guilt, took zero responsibility. If she did, then you know what, have at her.

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[(Anonymous)]

I'm sorry, but I find this a bit presumptuous. Do you really care about your cousin's newborn so much? . Like, to have an actual bond? More so that the mother? Really I have cousins I haven't seen for years. If they'd pop out a kid I'd have like zero feeling towards it, even if I saw it once or twice.

I can understand judging it on principle, but I have trouble believing you had such a close relationship with an infant, that isn't yous.

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[iceyred]

I don't give a shit how or why she decided to murder her child. This woman is/was upper middle class and had everything going for her before she got on the crazy train to hell. If she had no reliable conception of reality that's because SHE CHOSE to have no reliable conception of reality.

She hasn't apologized for anything. You have sympathy for a worthless piece of crap who killed her baby with meth. Think about that for a minute.

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[(Anonymous)]

da

that woman who killed her child probably feels more shitty about the situation than you, so yeah, I have sympathy for her. I don't see what's wrong with that. (Do I think what she did was okay, or that she should be forgiven? No.)

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[(Anonymous)]

Look, I get that you are understandably grieving and enraged, but you are being incredibly hurtful, insulting, dismissive, and unfairly judgmental towards entire swathes of people suffering from addiction -- the majority of whom will never do anything so horrible and externally harmful as what tragically happened in your family -- based on your anger at one specific individual.

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[(Anonymous)]

If she feels absolutely no remorse or guilt for what she did, fine, I'll give you that she doesn't deserve sympathy. But honestly, I really doubt that. I doubt it hard. Your average addict feels a LOT of things - guilt, remorse, depression, anxiety, loneliness - all combined into a desperate, worthless feeling that keeps them in the cycle of addiction.

You don't have to take my advice, I don't care all that much what you think, we're both anonymous faces on an Internet message board. All I'm saying is that you might think about what got her to the place she is, before you condemn her.

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[(Anonymous)]

And it's your cousin who will have to live with that fact all her life, (presuming it was not intentional).

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[(Anonymous)]

I'm really grossed out by the people who seem to think that it's more important to feel sympathy for the woman rather than the dead baby.