[ SECRET POST #2404 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2404 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[League of Legends]


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[Fuck City crew]


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[Jon Richardson, British comedian]


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Comments

Beauty vs other things

[(Anonymous)]

Does anyone else feel like it doesn't really help to tell everyone under the sun that they're beautiful, rather than maybe stressing the fact that outer beauty is not actually all that important? That other things should be praised instead?

I keep seeing these things on tumblr about "everyone is beautiful" and stuff like that, and I can't help but feel like it's a misguided message, because there are some people like me that KNOW they aren't attractive to 90% of people out there, and hearing that just sounds so false. I don't need to be lied to and told my stretch marks and acne scars are sexy, because they're not, but I'm okay with that, because I've got other things that are more important to me. It took me ages to figure out that my outward appearance wasn't what made me interesting.

Everyone wants to feel beautiful and I understand the urge to tell everyone they're beautiful because that'll make them feel better. But I guess I just wish people would put their efforts instead into changing the way society emphasizes beauty as necessary to happiness in the first place.

Re: Beauty vs other things

[(Anonymous)]

I totally get you, my favorite hobby is going up to a girl and telling her just how fucking ugly and fat she is until she breaks down in tears.

Re: Beauty vs other things

[fingalsanteater]

Aw, come on. That's not even funny.

Re: Beauty vs other things

[(Anonymous)]

Hey, now, come on, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean.

Because, remember. No matter where you go, there you are.

Re: Beauty vs other things

[(Anonymous)]

lol Hello manhateranon/replies to their own threads anon!

Re: Beauty vs other things

[fingalsanteater]

Everyone isn't beautiful because some people are shitty, awful people. But, even people are who physically unattractive can be beautiful because they have a beautiful personality. Does that make sense?

Re: Beauty vs other things

[(Anonymous)]

That's my whole point. This whole "everyone is beautiful" thing is always focusing on outer beauty, when it should maybe be shifting the focus away from there entirely.

Being physically unattractive shouldn't make someone feel shitty, that's my point. If our society would stop focusing on looks so much, people's self-esteem wouldn't plummet when they realized they didn't look like Natalie Portman or whatever.

Not being intelligent will give some people self-esteem issues but nowhere near to the level of being physically unattractive. Being hot and dumb is still valued more than being ugly and intelligent, when one isn't necessarily worth more than the other.

Re: Beauty vs other things

[tamabonotchi]

Those "love your body you're beautiful" tumblr posts are definitely well-intentioned but do jack-shit. It's supposed to be a body-positivity message where you don't let other people's opinion of how you should feel about your body bother you, but those posts are still telling you how you should feel about yourself...

Re: Beauty vs other things

[deadtree]

yeah I agree, I just laugh at a lot of those-- but then I'm a cynical old hag LOL

Re: Beauty vs other things

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know. I feel like this is one of those things where we can do both at the same time? I guess? Getting to a broader, more sane understanding of what physical beauty is, and getting to a broader, more sane understanding of how important physical beauty is, are both important things, and it seems to me that we can do both of them at the same time. They don't conflict.

In other words, uh, telling people they're beautiful isn't a bad thing and it doesn't have to conflict with also saying that it's okay if you're not beautiful

imo

Re: Beauty vs other things

[starphotographs]

I think it's just subjective to the point of irrelevance.

Re: Beauty vs other things

[(Anonymous)]

I don't understand why everyone needs to feel beautiful. Not everyone is beautiful, just like not everyone is smart, athletic, artistic, etc. etc. It's absolutely fine to be just average in any of those aspects.

When I see people with those "everyone is beautiful" messages, I just wish that they'd find some other quality to concentrate on, some positive quality that the people they are comforting actually possess. Concentrating on beauty just makes it the most important quality you can possibly have.

Re: Beauty vs other things

[iceyred]

I think Hollywood and advertising have taken the concept of beauty and twisted it until there is only one standard of beauty. Then they give us the message that if you do not fit that standard then you are ugly as sin and must change yourself.

Really, there are lots of kinds of beauty. Small busted women were considered attractive during the Raging Twenties. Rembrandt painted full figured ladies. Defining beauty by one specific, narrow standard (thin, perfect hair, large breasts, etc) is just so boring that I can't fault people for wanting to celebrate their kind of beauty.

I get what you're saying, I just think there are so many outside forces telling us we're not good enough that anytime somebody says 'fuck that, I'm awesome' I think it's a good thing.

Re: Beauty vs other things

[(Anonymous)]

I totally agree with you, anon.

I'm more annoyed with the fact that I'm supposed to "beautiful" in the first place, like it's some sort of requirement for my worth as a human being.

I'm more than my body - I have a brain rattling around in there too - but apparently that means jack shit if I'm ugly.

Re: Beauty vs other things

[caecilia]

speaking just for myself i'd feel a lot better hearing "you are smart and you helped me think of of this thing in a new way" but it's also nice to look in the mirror and be happy with my face. idk, i think i used to be more upset about this than i am now.

Re: Beauty vs other things

[lex_antonia]

I agree, and what irks me more than anything is that beauty is such a gendered concept. When people say 'all women are beautiful!' there's always the underlying assumption that they should be. In men, good looks are a plus in the way that, say, a talent for singing or cricket or stand-up comedy is a plus. It's certainly good to have it, but it's still considered an exceptional feature rather than a basic requirement for masculinity. For women it's different, and that bothers me. For women, beauty has a connotation of 'worth' and there's something deeply wrong with that.

Re: Beauty vs other things

[(Anonymous)]

This is so true! Like "pretty" as a compliment for girls is way more common than "handsome" for boys.

Re: Beauty vs other things

[making_excuses]

I think the thing is that people use (and think of) the term beautiful differently?

Looking at pictures of people, not knowing their personality or aura (or whatever you want to call it) most people will rate you beautiful or not, or on some for of scale, though that is the attractiveness part of the expression.

Knowing people on the other hand, makes them beautiful, because you like them, you love their personality and their appearance, because that is what makes them uniquely them, which makes them beautiful for you.

I have friends whose appearance is really pretty and I have others whom are more average looking, but in my mind they are all equal and to me they are beautiful, because they are kind hearted, funny individuals whom I know will always be there for me! How they look means nothing for me in the end, except for an identifier, I like seeing their smiles and hearing their laughter, I love hugging them and hanging out with them.

And I think we all judge people partly for how they look? Be it their faces, clothes or way of expressing themselves, and it is naive to think we don't.

For me it is more important to make sure I don't judge groups of people, or don't give individuals a chance because I don't like the way they dress, not to find (or call) everyone I meet beautiful, because at the end of the day that does not matter as much as how you treat those around you.

And beauty is a thing, some people are objectively prettier than other people, that does not make them better, just like being smart or good at sports does not make you a better person.

I tried making my point, I might or might not have failed... I guess ask me to clarify before making assumptions if I was unclear.

Re: Beauty vs other things

[(Anonymous)]

This is why I don't really like the Dove beauty campaign, aside from the one where they show how much photoshopping is done on models.

Re: Beauty vs other things

[(Anonymous)]

I agree that someone's looks shouldn't be the most important thing about them, but what makes you think that when people say that they're talking about physical beauty? I've always thought that "everyone is beautiful" stuff was more about inner beauty, like an "as long as you're a good person, you're beautiful" kind of thing.

Re: Beauty vs other things

[shinyhappypanic]

I agree. I wish the idea of loving yourself no matter what society thinks had caught on rather than the "everyone is beautiful" thing. like for me personally, I know that I'm not attractive and I'm not thin, but I still love myself and I think I'm fucking great regardless. it's a lovely feeling and I definitely prefer it to trying to convince myself I'm ~~beautiful~~.

Re: Beauty vs other things

[(Anonymous)]

"Everyone's special!" "Which is another way of saying no one is."

Re: Beauty vs other things

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I roll my eyes every time I see this crap come up on Tumblr. Look, I know I'm not beautiful, and messages like that feel really condescending like some sort of internet headpat. I am totally okay with not being beautiful, guys. Focusing on appearance and attractiveness is missing the whole damn point.

Oh hell yes.

[chardmonster]

I flat out don't trust people who tell me I'm beautiful because I know that's just something you say to people you love or care about. It's a compliment I can't ever believe. Tell me I'm smart, or that a specific outfit looks good on me, that I believe, but pretty? Then I have to assume you're being nice, and it's implying I'm ugly and you're trying to make me feel better.

That kind of sucks!

Re: Beauty vs other things

[(Anonymous)]

I dunno, the definition of "beautiful" is pretty much just "pleasing in some ambiguous way", not "pleasing in a strictly prescribed way". Saying someone is beautiful isn't saying they're young, or healthy, or perfectly symmetrical, or well-proportioned, or smooth-skinned, or fine-boned, or any of that. It's just saying they're appealing, and everyone has something that makes them pleasing to the eye, or to the mind, or to any of our senses.

Tumblr, in its usual shallow, ham-fisted way, seems to be trying to reclaim a word that's too frequently used in the narrowest possible fashion. I don't want to de-emphasize the pleasure of finding appeal - and therefore beauty - in all kinds of people and things just because some asshole way back when claimed it for sunsets and good genes only.