[ SECRET POST #2441 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2441 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 055 secrets from Secret Submission Post #349.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

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http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t570/CourtesyGriever/FuckingNightVale.png

[kaijinscendre]

Just gotta learn who to follow (and use blacklist). I see nearly no wank with any of my fandoms.

[grackle]

This right here.

[(Anonymous)]

whenever a friend asks me about Night Vale I say "it's a great show. DO NOT JOIN THE FANDOM" and if they need a reason I send them to one of those shithole "anti-racism" tumblrs where they determine that no one on earth has EVER drawn Carlos correctly and therefore repost the art and encourage heckling of the artist.

[(Anonymous)]

so this is the fandom the SJWs who love harassing artists flocked off to after Bryan told them off in the LoK fandom?

Yay! Maybe the ATLA/Korra fandom will be slightly more bearable now!

...sorry to all the Night Vale fans tho.

[morieris]

Slightly unrelated to the exact wording of the secret, so excuse me Confessor.
Usually, 'the fandom is wanky/a shitfest' is said by people who got told off in it one way or another - and sometimes I see people complain about such happening to them.

Am I the only one who doesn't see this? (No, but rhetorical questions). I HAVE seen people go "Someone yelled at me after seeing their 1,533 white sweater vest glasses purple color scheme Cecil.", but is anyone actually calling them a horrible person or is this person (hate to say this, but here we go) 'being too sensitive' about someone going "There are a variety of ways to make Cecil - but most of them are white? Huh?" in the tag and not direct it at anyone?

There's a difference between wank and social related discussion. Again...this doesn't really have anything to do with your grievance so much.

[(Anonymous)]

I was done with the fandom when the hate blogs started popping up. Apparently now Carlos doesn't just have to be a certain magical shade of brown that no one can attain, he's also trans...?

And if you don't adhere to that, the "fandom" attacks.

So yeah I think Night Vale is just a shitty fandom. They do exist.

[chardmonster]

Probably.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, in WTNV there are plenty of assholes who like to just reblog people's art telling them stuff like, 'Carlos is not white'. Like this tumblr. http://carlosisnotwhite.tumblr.com/tagged/carlos-the-scientist Apparently "dark skinned" means you must be as black as night (even though dark skinned can be anything from Halle Berry to Djimon Hounsou). Some of them are just fucking stupid like:

This one http://media.tumblr.com/c45b9727a883cbbeddf18124b579ca34/tumblr_msjhlc6cis1sqeo9yo1_1280.png
This one with the caption "It took me a minute to realize that I seemed to have drawn Will Graham when I was actually trying to figure out what my headcanon for Carlos was." (like WTF it is a B&W sketch) http://media.tumblr.com/8f6542127b0514b8ddeac0299d5833f8/tumblr_ms82b8zysS1rb4d9qo1_1280.jpg
THIS ONE?????!??!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! http://media.tumblr.com/b4fac959d52914f9b0c52039eb8e9062/tumblr_ms322bAhyL1s2cm0jo1_400.gif
And this one (to name a few) http://media.tumblr.com/3fcdf5d30bf8382ea668e943857635e0/tumblr_mrkd7i2GMv1qf5cimo1_1280.jpg

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Ha, that side of fandom is heated but the thing that pissed me off enough to make this secret was the wank that arose around people's different interpretations of Cecil critiquing (or mock critiquing) Carlos's chewing.

One popular writer started shitting over one of her fans for having a different interpretation. All to the point of the fan apologizing and slinking off.

I mean... chewing. The fans all ganged up on someone for one line.

I like any interpretation of that line but I think the fandom is really quick to establish what is "right" and attack anyone who has a different view.

So while I understand what you're saying, my secret didn't have much to do with the race wank, though that can be tiring. And I say this as someone who believes there is legitimate critique for how some people draw Carlos and the overall depictions of Cecil. And I think that's all I'll say on the matter.

[(Anonymous)]

da

I kind of agree. One of my fandoms is incredibly nice, considering the source material is extremely violent. It's pretty small, there's maybe 50 regulars and 300ish overall. The wank that has happened has been incredibly minor, short and polite.
That said, one person went on a whole bunch of rants about how the fandom is horrible and that no-one should join the fandom - because they were told off (politely) over being rude to another fan's character interpretation (other fan may have been a BNF? It's kinda hard to tell)

I think if they had opened it as a discussion they would have been fine, but the person went straight to insults and got upset when they were told off.

That said, for all I know Night Vale is a wanky fandom. I know MLP, Supernatural and the Doctorwholock thing are because I've seen it, but night vale only every graces my board with nice art and some meta I skipped

Secret 1 - Welcome to Night Vale

[transcriptanon]

[Picture is the logo of the podcast of "Welcome to Night Vale". It's a purple night sky with a crescent moon as part of a sinister eye in the sky; a telephone or electricity pole, a water tower and a barn or house with an antenna on the roof.]

I used a popular fic author's behavior in this fandom to talk a friend out of joining. She still listens to the pod casts, reblogs a bit of art, and may read a bit of recommended fic but she doesn't really go into fandom.

I'm not ashamed. This fandom is a shit fest on tumblr. The only reasonable people seem to be here on Fandom Secrets and my friend doesn't go here.

[chardmonster]

What in particular would she have been "joining?" There isn't an official fan club or something.

It sounds like you just don't want your friend associating with people you don't like. You are likely just being a possessive jerk.

Shitfest?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm just starting to listen this and have no idea about what's going on in the fandom, except, you know, the Cecil/Carlos shipping. Can someone enlighten me?

[(Anonymous)]

This secret could be applied to so many things. So, so many.

I'm not one of those people who think tumblr has ruined fandom, but there's no denying it's made it easier for awful people to congregate and bully others. :/

[pfefferminz]

I just got caught up and have been looking around the tumblr tags a bit. Nothing usual, lots of head canons, shipping and some race wank. What else is new? I've seen worse. I enjoy the fanart though.

[(Anonymous)]

I have yet to notice any craziness (er, of the wank variety) in the WTNV fandom. Though, I should admit, I'm not deeply into said fandom. It sucks that you get hit by the excessive crazies.

[forgottenjester]

Ahaha, I should probably warn my friends a bit too. But, eh, one won't see it. I know that for a fact. The other is a huge lurker and wouldn't probably see much of the wank anyway 'cause she's only in it for the pretty pictures.

Weeellll, hope your fandom experience gets better because you sound like you're been run over by the anger truck. Fandom should be a chill thing. You should probably back out like your friend has.

[(Anonymous)]

Did you know that the creator of Welcome to Nightvale is a regular poster on the Something Awful forums? It's true, and here is his thread:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3493679

You can go there for good discussion without having to deal with Tumblr fools, plus a lot of behind-the-scenes info.

[(Anonymous)]

I've carefully curated my dash so I don't get any of the SJW Night Vale wank on it but whenever I step into the tags it's an instant deluge of race wank and "My Carlos is darker than yours!!!" fighting.

If you want an instant example of the stupid have a look the the POCecil tag. Also the "militant night vale political correctness society" tag, which started as an insult but now people are actively taking up the name.

[al28894]

I love Night Vale, but the most I do is just scroll through its tags on Tumblr and maybe reblog a piece of good fanart once in a while. There's just too much Cecil/Carlos for me to get really involved there.

[(Anonymous)]

I think most of the people I follow on tumblr are Night Vale fans, but I haven't seen anything recognisable* as wank




*Not in the fandom, there may have been wank and I may not have seen it as such

Honestly I don't get it

[(Anonymous)]

People who think "my headacanon is that [character] is trans /gay/ a POC/has a disability/ etc. BUT YOU CAN'T DISAGREE OR YOU'RE ****IST"

How does this make any sense.

Do they think they're headcanon is changing the world?


I mean I get it if the person disagreeing is being a bigot about it. But if they're just going "nah...I don't really see it for this character" how is that at ALL any kind of bigotry?

Headcanons are just that HEADCANONS. As in 'a theory in my head'. *shrug*

[bio_obscura]

People on Tumblr only seem to care about it because there is a canon m-slash pairing.

[(Anonymous)]

u need to let your friend decide their own fandom path tho