[ SECRET POST #2446 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2446 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[How To Train Your Dragon]


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[Fall Out Boy's "The Phoenix"]


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

it sounds to me, you're working with the wrong people.

The problem isn't that there is a place where you can be safe from offensive assholes, the problem is that there are places that do have these assholes, and everyone just say's "That's just the way the world is"

Fandom safe spaces have trained me in how to react to these assholes. Because these offenses are offensive. these 'innocent' ignorant comments are not innocent and should be combated. You should react to these things the same way IRL that you would react to them in fandom.

the fact that people don't is where the problem lies.

[(Anonymous)]

No. Sometimes the problem is you. Case in point: A joke in an IT department about dongles is not something to get in a snizzy about.

[(Anonymous)]

Or something to get people fired over.

[(Anonymous)]

DONGLEGATTTEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!

[(Anonymous)]

This is a good point. Some people are going to be assholes, but the best response to that isn't to respect and legitimize their "right" to be assholes. Shitty behavior isn't like the weather, the sort of thing that just passively happens -- someone has to make the choice to be a shithead, and there's nothing wrong with telling them they've made a shitty and unacceptable choice.

[feotakahari]

This reminds me of an essay I read once, called "Invisibility is an Unnatural Disaster". It may be relevant, so I'll link it.

http://books.google.com/books?id=1YR8plajhwIC&pg=PA132&lpg=PA132&dq=invisibility+is+an+unnatural+disaster&source=bl&ots=8oGL9mccoP&sig=SXlif-KPJy7B9FyzIwdW_JxRw-E&hl=en&sa=X&ei=IKAzUuakPMHwigLW54HIDw&ved=0CEkQ6AEwBTgK#v=onepage&q=invisibility%20is%20an%20unnatural%20disaster&f=false

[(Anonymous)]

But sometimes you do have to let assholes be assholes, like when your job is involved and you could lose it because calling out someone too much for being an asshole is taken as "hostile behavior." Shitty, but it happens.

[(Anonymous)]

then you need to let these assholes know who they're talking to, let them know it won't be fucking accepted, and if your boss has an issue, tell him to go fuck himself and find a better job.

[(Anonymous)]

But, like you said, most people understand that this is shitty, and that a job where customers and coworkers are expected by management to behave with decency is superior. They don't try to make people feel foolish or weak for preferring a job where they aren't expected to just accept any behavior at all.

[mekkio]

Fandom safe spaces have trained me in how to react to these assholes.

Yeah...that thing I said about sounding like a cult upthread....double fold now.

[(Anonymous)]

Fine, you fucking pedant, fandom safe spaces have given me the opportunity and experience to practice how to react to these assholes.

[(Anonymous)]

By being a different sort of asshole. An entitled one, a self-centred one, an asshole that will be self-righteous about their own demands that everyone else bed to their own will. Yeah, good work there. Let us know when you are ready to start getting better and overcoming your problems. Because they are your problems and not anyone else's problems to sort or deal with.

[(Anonymous)]

Sounds like you're being an asshole yourself.

[(Anonymous)]

you sound like the asshole here. Maybe the problem is you?

[(Anonymous)]

I wanna see an apostrophe. You sound like the guy who tried so hard to harass and slander me on another site.

[(Anonymous)]

"These assholes" is a phrasing that really fucking bothers me here. It sets up this ridiculous "me against the world" mentality that's self-destructive and isolating, and you're refusing to accept that people are fallible and do offensive things, overwhelmingly out of the fact that they don't realize that they're offending or hurting anyone. It creates this feeling of a crusade where there is none, where you're the protagonist of an epic with waves of faceless, evil enemies bombarding you and that is not the case. They are also people, just like you, who face aggression and upsetting situations and who do in fact care about others.

[(Anonymous)]

Well said.

[(Anonymous)]

And what about the people who don't, in fact, care about others, and deal with their own misery by making everyone else miserable? The problem is it's impossible to tell, at first sight, the difference between people who make unintentional mistakes and will feel bad if they realize they've hurt someone, and people who are consciously nasty because it makes them feel better and who won't stop until someone deals with them. Each individual is in a battle against those kind of people every day, and the hardest part is picking them out of the lineup. So yeah, some days it is you against everyone, because the only one whose intentions you know for sure is yourself.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, there's an openly homophobic, transphobic, racist, misogynistic (except for misogynistic, he happily admits to all of these things) guy who worked with me for two years. I'm a queer, bi-racial woman so you can imagine how much fun that was. I did shush him with facts every time he started up one of his diatribes, but I didn't actively start these conversations.

The crazy thing is aside from his rampant bigotry he's actually a really nice, funny person.

Still, I was glad when he was moved off my team, sad when he came back, and so fucking happy he is now gone for good in a position where they'd have to hire and train someone new to make him return which isn't happening because placing a new hire in our team would be less hassle. <3

[(Anonymous)]

Right, because it's so much healthier and more empowering to spend all your time being pissed off and "combating" stuff that never would've bothered you if you hadn't been immersed in this kind of thinking. Hence the world becomes a place where not only are there assholes, but the assholes are now being continually browbeaten, and the rest of us who just want to ignore the assholes and get on with our lives like we've always done now have to listen to it. Big improvement.

[(Anonymous)]

uh there are lots of people who were offended by stuff, social justice just gave them the words they needed to realize why? you really believe just tumblr made people get offended by things, that's why activist groups never happened in reality, right?

[(Anonymous)]

This so hard.

You were taught how to lose a job

[insanenoodlyguy]

Or at least how to be miserable at one.

In the real world, if you respond like you do in a safe space like tumblr? You will be the crazy loon in the office nobody wants to interact with. That is not good for a million reasons. At best, you will find yourself very lonely. At worst, your boss lets you go cause who can stand you?

Thank you, Noodly

[(Anonymous)]

In fairness, if you don't know how to tell someone to shut up in a passive aggressive, plausible deniability tone then you've not got long in that job anyway.

[arcadiaego]

'That's just the way the world is' is disturbingly defeatist. Nothing is 'just the way the world is'. If it was we'd still be in caves ffs.