[ SECRET POST #2555 ]

[case]

⌈ Secret Post #2555 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Attack on Titan/Shingeki No Kyojin]


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03.
[The Muppet Movie]


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04.
[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen]


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05.
[Frozen]


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06.
[Once Upon a Time]


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07.
[Dissonance]


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08.
[Zooey Deschanel]


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09.
[My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic]


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10.
[Eona: The Last Dragoneye]














Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 038 secrets from Secret Submission Post #364.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 2 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Feminist threads

[(Anonymous)]

So it took 3 days for the man who runs F!S to declare my posts about feminism to be "Spam" and deserving of being thrown out.

Without context? Really? That quote needed context? It wasn't self evident enough? Wow, you're really reaching there.

So ok, I think a lot of people obviously don't like a feminist showing up, but I have to believe that some people were enjoying or finding value in them. So here we are. Crunch time. Anyone brave enough to come forward and be tell me honestly that you appreciated this?

If not, that's fine.

Re: Feminist threads

[(Anonymous)]

You have got to be kidding me. Hopefully this gets frozen as well.

Re: Feminist threads

[(Anonymous)]

I dunno, I'm interested in seeing where this goes. I'm also drunk, so it's good that I am not in charge.

Re: Feminist threads

[(Anonymous)]

Assuming you're not a troll: It has nothing to do with you being a feminist. I think you'll find that most of the people here are feminists as well.

It's because you're fucking annoying.

Re: Feminist threads

[(Anonymous)]

Can I be real here? I've been supporting your threads this whole time, I've tried to respond constructively, and I don't think you're a bad person and I don't dislike that you're a feminist.

But you have to have known that this was a possibility, and it has nothing to do with you being a feminist or with any personal insults towards Case. Come the fuck on. People have been telling you, essentially, the same things since you started doing this that resulted in him freezing your thread. For fuck's sake, there has to be a limit, okay? Your response here is completely in line with all the things that got the threads shut down. You refuse to acknowledge any legitimate disagreement with yourself, or with the subset of feminism you belong to. But more than that, you refuse to argue for yourself. It's one thing that you disagree with these things but instead of doing that, you just state them, and then call anyone who criticizes you an anti-feminist. That's why people told you not to do this, that's why people have been criticizing you, that's why everyone thinks you're a troll which is why the response is so negative. Not because everyone hates feminism or because Case is a man (and seriously, that kind of personal attack is completely out of bounds). Because of shit like this.

It's bullshit. Stop doing that, and rethink your approach to making these threads so they don't turn into spamfests, because I want to have these conversations. But your attitude is the biggest obstacle to that right now. I really think you're sincere and I think this could be a good thing and I want it to work. But, Jesus Christ, have some perspective.

Re: Feminist threads

[(Anonymous)]

+1

Re: Feminist threads

[(Anonymous)]

Did I appreciate your shit stirring? No. Did I appreciate case freezing your stupid thread? Fuck yes!

Re: Feminist threads

[lynx]

Read this in the morning, when you're sober.

I gave you good advice. Lots of people gave you good advice, and you ignored them all. You're not providing the start of a discussion. You're boring us all to tears. And I say this as an outspoken feminist who participates both in online and IRL discussion and activism. The only thing you've achieved here, is alienating people.

You have lots of growing up to do. Academia is not everthing, and you fail at Debate 101. Improve, and then we'll talk. I'm actually pretty sure you would be better recieved if you changed your approach. Your behavior is not becoming of an adult, nor of a feminist.

Re: Feminist threads

[(Anonymous)]

No I did not appreciate it. The first day I was like meh. The second day I was like, "Oh no." And today I was just pissed by what you started.

But then-!

[(Anonymous)]

Adrelle was trembling. She knew she was forbidden from setting foot in the glen, but she couldn't ignore the call any longer. With each step she could feel the weight and freedom of her actions swirl all around her. Her heart had never beat so quickly in all her short life. As she approached the walker's glen, she could see them. The ring of stones that called forth the new ones, and bestowed upon them the ancient's power.

It was against tribal law for women to set foot here, and no woman had ever broken it; until now. The Walkers had been dying for decades. Fewer and fewer had been called, and fewer still had been gifted. The Walkers were a dying breed, and no one had any answers as to why. It had never occurred to the old ones that they had been the makers of their own demise.

Ardelle slowly walked to the center of the ring, and as she did the ancient stones began to stir. From within them lights emerged, flickers and wisps of all different colors. A soft tinkling sound followed, and to Ardelle's ears they sounded like bells. The lights danced around her, leaving rainbow colored tails as they passed. To a casual observer, this may have seemed frightening, but not for Ardelle. She could feel a strange force start to pulse outward from her heart. Every hair on her body stood on end and her fingers began to tingle. For the first time Ardelle finally felt the one thing rarely rewarded to her kind. Freedom.

As quickly as the lights had come, they vanished. Ardelle fell to her knees and within the now silent ring of stones, she began to weep. How many women from her tribe had been called and never dared answer? How many had spent their lives fighting to remain silent, when every instinct told them to cry out. No, thought Ardelle, never again. She wiped the tears from her speckled cheeks and stood. No mere maid any longer, here stood a Walker; and this walker was a woman.

She would be the first, but Ardelle vowed she would not be the last.

Re: Feminist threads

[(Anonymous)]

It's not a matter of bravery. I didn't appreciate it. It was condescending to begin with--most of us are intelligent people in our 20s and older who have had access to the same books and resources as you, and f!s tends to lean toward the socially liberal. We're not a bunch of barbarians who need you to enlighten us. And secondly, your responses are rude and I think if you really wanted discussion you'd be open to people disagreeing. Thirdly, crying that the only reason your threads were frozen is because you're an innocent woman and big bad scary man is in charge doesn't actually make you look all that feminist. When the majority of your comments are "stop", "go away", "everyone told you this would be a bad idea", etc, how is it not spam?

Re: Feminist threads

[(Anonymous)]

No, I did not appreciate your threads. They were pointless and your responses were pointless. You're not opening a discussion, you're throwing out words into the air and hoping someone picks them out. And you need to learn to accept criticism and feedback. People told you repeatedly what you could do to facilitate discussion, but you didn't do any single one of those things.

I'm a feminist. A lot of people on this sit probably identify as feminists. It's not that we don't appreciate a feminist coming in, it's that we don't appreciate pointless comments and trolling, which is what you were doing.

Obviously you have a lot to learn. You don't understand debate, conversation, discussion etiquette. You obviously don't understand what "context" is or why it's important. You don't seem to understand criticism and feedback.

Go, learn, educate, experience. Then maybe come back and try again with a different approach. Or just go away. Either one.

Re: Feminist threads

[comradesmiler]

What does it matter to you that Case is a man? Seriously, I thought feminists say that they're all for gender equality.

Re: Feminist threads

[case]

First off, you aren't even quoting people properly. Here's the entire interview with Annie Lennox in Cosmopolitan: http://www.cosmopolitan.co.uk/campus/cash-careers/cosmo-reclaim-feminism/cosmo-meets-annie-lennox It's 4th question down, "Q: What makes you passionate about feminism?" you snipped off like half the quote, removing context that was there even within the quote itself.

(^ Literally all you had to do. Copy paste a link. Context! Then you go, "what do you think of this?" and a discussion starts!)

Second, multiple people in the community who have been trying to discuss things with you have suggested that you provide context so that an actual discussion can happen instead of throwing out (edit snippets of, I realize now) random quotes. You apologized once (or maybe that wasn't you, I don't know), said you were sincere about wanting to start a discussion, then ignored the requests of everyone who wanted a discussion with you, about how to go about actually starting one. Then people got annoyed and I'd say justifiably so. They were meeting you halfway, and you refused to move.

Third, this has nothing to do with the topic of the quotes, or the thread. You could have quoted something about a banana every day, which someone has actually literally done, and had it frozen too. Which did also happen!

That's about it, I think!

Re: Feminist threads

[(Anonymous)]

lmao pretty much the entirety of this community is a feminist. You were seriously preaching to the wrong choir here - because we're all feminists we don't feel the need to talk about how feminist we are, and as normal people, we certainly don't fucking want to associate with your Holocaust analogy quotes. Assuming for just a second that you're not a troll - and I am dead certain that you are - you've got to realize how annoying you are. We're here because we want to talk about fandom. sure, in general comments we discuss pretty much everything, but why would you think we would need or want a regular ultra-"feminist" quote?

In another note: Case, you are awesome. I wasn't sure if you'd step in, and I know you're not making a statement on the content or anything, but it did seem spammy and unnecessary to me.

Can feminism be reclaimed or is it time to change?

[(Anonymous)]

On the plus side, now I want to see what a feminist thread with an actual discussion would be like.

Can the term "feminist" be reclaimed and polished back to something that doesn't mean "man-hating"?

Or is it outdated and needs to be replaced entirely to reflect the new ideology of equality of these days?

The other day my bro was all like "no, feminists have done so much harm, blah blah, I'm anti-feminist" and I was all like "okay, but why are you bringing this up during our Christmas celebrations".

So! Thoughts?

Re: Feminist threads

[(Anonymous)]

You are just so clueless, I don't even know how to respond. Not like you ever reply and participate in discussions, anyway, just wank-and-run.

Re: Feminist threads

[forgottenjester]

I am a feminist. I appreciated Case freezing your thread. I did not appreciate you.

You don't give me the feeling that you actually care about women's rights or discussion. At all. Honestly? You're wasting everyone's time as well as your own.

Re: Feminist threads

[(Anonymous)]

the man who runs F!S

1. There are at least three mods. (Or there were back in the LJ days.

2. No one knows what case's gender is.

3. No one cares what case's gender is.

...OK case is a Wooper, but notwithstanding. Now you're annoying EVERYONE. Are you doing this for homework? Psych eval social experiment? WHAAAAT? WHY? We aren't here to talk about stuff like this, we are here to talk about fandom-related things. Nothing of what you have posted is even remotely fandom-related. So can you see why people don't want to participate?

Re: Feminist threads

[dethtoll]

I just posted something further down about the blatant sexism on the cover of an upcoming issue of Detective Comics and complaining about DC's recent history of alienating everyone who isn't a white cishet male between the ages of 20 and 40.

And you're fucking telling me there's no feminists here? Get away from the computer, go outside, and maybe actually realize that your approach is deeply flawed, and closing your ears going LA LA LA YOU'RE ALL JUST SEXIST isn't doing you any favors.

Re: Feminist threads

[making_excuses]

I would love to discuss feminism, in any way shape and form, just like I love discussing other topics. But for there to be discussing there has to be a question in there somewhere. I'm even a lover of quotes and I like using them as a starting point but there must also be some context of some kind.

Which is why I have not engaged in your threads, not because of the feminism, I discuss feminist issues daily with a friend, I discuss it in schools with my friends, heck we even discuss it in lectures . It is one if the things I am involved in. But I have no desire to engage in an half assed attempt to "prove" how hated feminists or women are. I have in need to be involved in your idiotic attempts to prove that this community is evil or mean. Because you know what, most of us are nice, friendly people who believe i equality for all, we even discuss it in a nice manner once in a while... But not when it is in the context you put it in, then we react the same way we do to wanly secrets...

So congrats you managed to piss me off, and for people who know me, both here and in real life know that it is not something that happens frequently.

Re: Feminist threads

[caerbannog]

You're pretty spammy. I'm all for femminism but I don't particularly enjoy the quote posts. Especially the ones where I can't even work out what the quote is addressing, and the outright trollish boring ones.

Re: Feminist threads

[otakugal15]

Nope!!

Re: Feminist threads

[(Anonymous)]

It took 3 days for the fair and impartial mod to step in for a legitimate reason. That's a hell of a lot of patience right there, more than you deserve in my opinion.

Yes, it was without context, did you miss that part? You were the one who posted it after all. It was a better quote than the ones before to be sure, but still a dumbass, shit-stirring move. And I think you know that already. It's really telling that you didn't actually participate in the threads after starting them. That would involve stuff like explaining yourself, after all! Can't have that!

Nobody is afraid to come forward and be honest with you. We've been doing that all along. Even if somebody didn't want their username attached with it, they could have done it anon at any time.

People here are being truthful when we say we do not appreciate what you are doing. Maybe you should start listening to us, instead of assuming that we all just hate feminists because we don't like you. You are not all feminists. You are a self-righteous buttwipe who can't admit when she's wrong and whines nonstop when people call her out on her bullshit methods.

Perhaps, if you really feel you must stick around, you could try explaining why you think people are being unfeminist, instead of flailing and crying whenever somebody disagrees with you.

If not, that's fine.

Re: Feminist threads

[insanenoodlyguy]

I appreciated your dogged attempts to troll.

I figure you set the feminist movement back with this. Not like, a lot, but you know, maybe 2 hours a day. So the movement was set back a good six hours. way to go!