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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-02-08 03:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #2594 ]


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[personal profile] logicbutton 2014-02-08 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I would have liked the romance better if it hadn't been a love triangle. Like if Katniss and Gale really were just friends, or if Peeta really had been acting. But no.
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[personal profile] iceyred 2014-02-08 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I felt like the love triangle was thrown in for the whole purpose of having a love triangle. Either one of your ideas would have been better.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-08 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
mte. preach.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-08 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I couldn't agree more. from someone who's for a long time been independent and single without the need for a relationship. I shouldn't feel like I have to find a partner but because of movies it seems like the ideal is just that.
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[personal profile] sporkly 2014-02-08 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I hear yah.

I'd love for fiction as a whole to have more focus on platonic and family interactions.
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[personal profile] silvereriena 2014-02-08 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, the romance is there but I found that the books didn't dwell on it too much, so I can see how you might have overlooked it.
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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-02-08 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Hear, hear.

I'm usually very good at picking up on all kinds of emotions, relationships and tropes in literature (mostly because I have much experience with this stuff, but also because IRL I fail at it spectacularly, and books are like... an easier version of RL where everything is written down instead of being somewhere inside people's heads), but I'm usually bored by romance. As in, I'm interested in such plotlines so far as they concern the emotional state of the characters whom I like, but the romance itself can go die in a hole for all I care.

I wouldn't want it to go away altogether, but I would like for all the romance in fiction to, yanno, MAKE SENSE. Advance the plot, help the character development, this sort of thing.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-08 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
How can it be boring to you when you don't even realise it's there (as per your own secret - 'I don't pick up on it')?

Do I detect a little bit of 'not like those other silly girls' complaintbragging?

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-08 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess it could be hard to tell because Katniss is so stoic herself (and also everything's from her POV, and she's also super paranoid about emotional things), but the book is definitely pretty heavy on the relationship stuff. (And it makes me laugh when people complain about the media playing it up when the real point of the books was The Hunger Games or whatever. Because nope.)

(Anonymous) 2014-02-08 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
If it makes you feel any better, your friends are flat out wrong. The romance is an incredibly small part of the plot, and Katniss, who is the viewpoint character, does not prioritize it at all. The media, looking at the franchise from the outside, places a ridiculous amount of significance on the love triangle, but that's because the media is shallow and ridiculous.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-08 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
wow you are shockingly oblivious (as was katniss in the books, to be fair). still, I don't think romance is really a MAJOR part of the hunger games, it's just something that the media and some fans like to play up (much like the non-fucking-existent love triangle that some people, mostly the media again, are trying to portray as the next edward-jacob-bella bullshit). yes, peeta and katniss' relationship is a huge part of the series, but the romantic aspect of it? eh, not so much.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-08 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
The romance is definitely there, but it isn't important from Katniss' point of view so I think you're not crazy to overlook it. I can't speak for the other fans, but I liked the romance because I thought Katniss and Peeta were really good for each other--she's the practical one, he's the romantic one, together they fight crime!--and also the whole damn world is so depressing it's nice to have something optimistic to think about. I'd certainly rather a little focus on that than the unrelenting hopeless pointless muddle of the last book.

I don't really get the 'love triangle' thing, Katniss never seemed to me to be romantically interested in Gale at all although both of the boys were in love with her. I saw her relationship with Gale like she thought of him as a brother/best friend, and Peeta was just someone she thought was a good person and came to (kind of?) love almost by osmosis.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-08 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
your friends are pretty dumb if they think it's the most important part (or that it's even interesting lol)
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[personal profile] arcadiaego 2014-02-08 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think that the romance is as important as it's made out to be by the media. People want to promote it as a love triangle, but Katniss, who after all is the narrator, is ambivalent towards both Peeta and Gale, confused about her feelings, and repeatedly states she has no time to think about relationships. Of course, Peeta does come to be very important as he's the only one who understands what she's been through, but I think it's really more a way of explaining Katniss' state of mind. (After all a 'normal' teenage girl would probably feel very differently about it all.)

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-08 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I spent the entire first movie believing that Peeta was faking his love for the Capital.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-09 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Word. I find so many book summaries that sounds like amazing reads, particularly ones with female main characters, but then the second paragraph of the summary goes along the line of "and then she meets the handsome male character who is going to not only sweep her off her feet but save the day too" and I'm like... nope.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2014-02-09 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
I don't see much of a romance in the books because, as Katniss makes clear, she doesn't see much of a future for herself.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2014-02-09 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Totally agree - i'd love to have more tv shows and movies where the 'love interest/romance' bit is completely left out.
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[personal profile] rbhudson 2014-02-09 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
I definitely thought Peeta was faking it, too
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[personal profile] i_paint_the_sky 2014-02-09 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
I still believe that Peeta was at least playing up his crush on her, considering he and Katniss didn't really know each other before the Games. And he's smart enough to come up with a good strategy like that, which he needed in order to have any chance at surviving.
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*solidarity fistbump*

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2014-02-09 05:06 am (UTC)(link)
It's not that I hate romance, I just hate our culture and popular media's obsession over it. Like, seriously, there are other relationships in people's lives besides romantic ones, and they are just as important. -_-

Re: *solidarity fistbump*

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-09 05:32 pm (UTC)(link)
It's kinda weird. Whenever anybody says they're tired of all romance in media, they're mostly greeted with *fistpump of solidarity* or "I here you, bro/sis!"

But when somebody says they're tired of all the shipping in fandom, they get mostly a negative response.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-09 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought it was really obvious when I read the first book. It was too much for my tastes (though I thought it was okay in the movie). I liked Katness/Peeta better in the second movie when it seemed more subdued. I usually hate romance in media (just because it's often terrible and unconvincing and just blah) but if it's really subtle or to my taste, it's fine.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-10 04:48 am (UTC)(link)
I noticed the love stuff and was bored too. Maybe it's because I'm not hetero or something? It just seemed like it was added on. Oh well, at least it was just added on, I was there for the worldbuilding and danger.