[ SECRET POST #2618 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2618 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

02. http://i.imgur.com/tVbD4xU.png

[helenadax]

Is Godzilla going to be a white guy now?

[iceyred]

In the movie he will be played by an albino alligator.

[(Anonymous)]

...Gaijinra?

[asecretchord]

Totally off the subject, but I love that icon!

[rubbertea]

I don't get it. Do people say it's whitewashing because it's meant to take place in Japan but most of the cast is white? If so then it's a reasonable argument. But if Godzilla is attacking another city, like, idk, DC or London, throwing some white people in the mix doesn't seem like much of a stretch.

[(Anonymous)]

Idk what others say about it, but what is definitely whitewashing and problematic about it is changing the origin story.
s. http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/force-nature-man-rubber-suit-back-look-back-60-years-godzilla-king-monsters/

Originally Godzilla was inspired by an accident involving a test-detonation of a hydrogen bomb by the U.S. resulting in the fatal irradiation of several Japanese fishing boats crews.

See that in the light of Nagasaki and Hiroshima. It's not directly about the American, it's about the atomic bomb itself, yes. But taking this part of American responsibility out of the story is shitty as fuck.

“We’ve taken it very seriously and the theme is man versus nature and Godzilla is certainly the nature side of it,” said Edwards in a July 2013 interview.“

force of nature, ok. but appropriating the story by rewriting it so that Americans shoot atomic bombs to stop godzilla, as it's at least rumoured? that's just wrong in my opinion, if you call it white washing or not.

[(Anonymous)]

I'll be surprised if it 'gives birth to a whole new generation of Godzilla fans'. It looks fucking terrible.

[(Anonymous)]

...the fuck were you expecting? How does that badass piece of lizard look terrible? I mean, I have no clue what the story line is, but it's Godzilla. Who cares as long as it looks awesome? This raises the same confusion in me as does people who hated Pacific Rim.

[pantasma]

Frankly, so were the originals. It's about a giant lizard (&co) destroying civilization. I love 'em, but srsly gize...

[(Anonymous)]

Eh, fuck off.

[(Anonymous)]

godzilla was a metaphor for the japanese trauma of Nagasaki and Hiroshima and an nuclear accident

and this movie apparently changes the origin story into the americans only using the atomic bomb to fight godzilla

yeah, but sure, it's only whitewashing that's the problem here

[(Anonymous)]

So, according to you they must stick to the original metaphor. Why?

[morieris]

I'm not familiar with the origins of Godzilla beyond what Anon above posted, but...What? Godzilla is a giant monster and can presumably walk across the world fairly easily so...he can attack more than just Tokyo?

[(Anonymous)]

The movie's gonna suck

not because of whitewashing, it's just gonna suck

[(Anonymous)]

I am so pumped for the movie. The trailer looked amazing. (Godzilla fan since I was single digits.)

[(Anonymous)]

The black dudes are gonna die first.

[nightscale]

I'm trying not to be too excited for it, I don't want to be disappointed, but I am looking forward to it because I always enjoy a Godzilla movie.

[gabzillaz]

I love Godzilla and I really want this movie to be good.

But yeah, considering its origins, the change in the script sucks.

[augustbird]

> when people claim minority status for an issue that does not target their minority
> ????
> ??
> this doesn't give you the justification to say shitty things

Repeat after me, kids!

[elephantinegrace]

You can like something and think it's problematic.

The fact that somebody thinks a thing is terrible and somebody else does not only means that they have different standards or different levels of awareness.

Popularity doesn't make a work perfect or even better than a less popular work.

We are all unfairly biased in some ways.

[(Anonymous)]

You're black, okay, but that doesn't mean you get to make excuses for whitewashing Japanese people/history/metaphors, just like how being Indian doesn't excuse you from whitewashing Avatar The Last Airbender despite all its cultural research.

[(Anonymous)]

On reflection, in this case, I don't buy the whitewashing argument at all, and frankly it strikes me as ignorant of the history of the character.

Yes, Godzilla originally bore some serious metaphoric weight as a manifestation of postwar Japanese atomic fears. That was the first movie. Of dozens.

Later, he became a more ambiguous figure in subsequent movies, like in Destroy All Monsters when he teamed up with Rodan and Mothra to fight Ghidorah, and then he became a flat-out hero when he fought enemies like Mechagodzilla or Hedorah. (Indeed, Godzilla vs. Hedorah is a Godzilla movie about the dangers of environmental neglect and pollution, so there's precedent for that too.)

The character of Godzilla has served a VARIETY of purposes over his history, and frankly, it's a little pathetic of American activists to ignore all the work put in by Toho in favor of freezing the character at a single point that happens to push their white-guilt buttons. You do not get social justice points for ignoring what Japanese artists have actually done, just because it doesn't fit a narrative you find convenient.

TL;DR: Don't lecture people on what Godzilla is "really" about if you don't actually know very much about Godzilla.

I have a stupid question

[(Anonymous)]

Why is it wrong to change the backstory in this reboot but it's ok in other franchises? I honestly don't understand the problem and I want to.

[caerbannog]

Eh. I just hope Jurassic Park 4, as shitty as it is likely to be, makes it to the cinemas.

COME ON JP. YOU CAN DO IT. LIMP TO THE CINEMAS.