[ SECRET POST #2640 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2640 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[fscom]

08. http://i58.tinypic.com/2h3mx44.jpg

[tasogare_n_hime]

Where exactly did you get the idea her father was rich? Other than that I can see you point but the rich inventor dad thing is coming out of nowhere.

[(Anonymous)]

Most likely, the secret maker figures that anyone who spends his time inventing instead of working a regular job has some sort of independent income.

[greenvelvetcake]

Headcanon time!

My thoughts are that Belle's mother was independently wealthy/had family money and Belle was raised in the city in luxury. Then classic Disney parent death, Maurice and Belle couldn't stand living there any longer (everything reminds them of her), so they move out to the countryside for a change of scenery. Cue start of movie, where Belle dislikes the provincial town and taking care of chickens when she's used to museums and theaters and libraries and high culture.

...Sorry. That was probably more than was asked for.

[diet_poison]

This. That was my first thought..."He's not rich dude, what...?"

[caecilia]

sure but at the same time, that entire song was set up to show us that Belle was ostracized by the town (they call her "funny" about 80 times)

it's not black and white though I mean obviously the bookshop guy liked her.

eta: but if people are really villainizing the bread guy because he didn't listen to her recap of jack and the beanstalk then I agree that's pretty dumb

[(Anonymous)]

Ostracized is a little strong. I thought the song was about how she didn't fit in, and people didn't quite understand her. They're puzzled, but benevolent about it. Pretty much every one seemed to like her, save maybe Gaston's jealous fanclub girls. Her thirst for new experiences comes from living the mundane every day of a small town, not a need to escape a society that mistreats her.

[truxillogical]

I still say the bookshop guy is the Fairy in disguise. A bookshop? In a "poor provincial town?" Where people find reading for pleasure to be odd? In that era? That's doing so well the owner can just lend books out instead of selling them to someone who would be his best (only?) customer? And just...gives them to her if she really really likes them?

Nah. It's the Fairy, giving her a steady diet of appropriate stories to make her ready to go help Beast learn his lesson before it's too late.

[iceyred]

You have a point, OP. I never thought of that.

[(Anonymous)]

They're also quite wrong and projecting hardcore. Belle is, A. new to town and B. was directly asked where she was going in the depicted scene

Also I highly doubt her father is rich, he's just invented enough things to make chores easier for them

[(Anonymous)]

I can't believe I'm commenting on something so insignificant to the film as a whole, but if memory serves, the BAKER starts the conversation by saying "where are you off to?" and she excitedly says that she's going to the bookshop and begins to explain why, at which point he just blows her off.

So she turns away, rolling her eyes, all like: "if you didn't wanna know, why'd you bother asking?"

I don't think it was meant to reflect badly on either one of them, but I DO think it was demonstrating that Belle is on a totally different wavelength as the rest of the town. If she barged in on him while he was trying to work, that would be one thing, but that's not what happened: he started a polite but utterly meaningless and uninterested conversation. That's why she felt left out: because even the nice folk don't really care what she has to say.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, this was my impression of things. The baker isn't supposed to be mean or anything, but the conversation with him shows that she doesn't really have others around to share her interests with.

[caecilia]

yeah you have it right

[(Anonymous)]

Isn't it the case that, usually, when people say something "where are you off to", or any other variation on a "what's up?" sort of theme, they usually don't actually care all that much about the answer, and are just being friendly and polite?

[(Anonymous)]

because even the nice folk don't really care what she has to say.

But it seems like she doesn't care what *they* have to say, either.

[(Anonymous)]

You and your pesky facts.

Why the fuck would you think her dad is rich?

[(Anonymous)]

If she was rich she'd be able to get the fuck out of town and travel like she wanted to.

[kallanda_lee]

...Because people who work never read?

Obviously it's a cartoon, and we do not delve into the private lives of side characters very much, but to me her whole point of isolation was that she had imagination/thirst for knowledge while ohers did not, which is a really frustrating position to be in.

And those are not traits unique to non-working people.

Also chiming in with the people who are saying her dad was not rich.

[(Anonymous)]

Not to mention, he merrily asked where she was going, and as soon as she happily began talking about going to the bookstore, he stopped caring. And everyone in the town sees her as weird and literally says "it's a pity and a sin she isn't like us."

Hell, they all show up later to support Gaston in locking up her father so their hero will get married.

[(Anonymous)]

Her dad wasn't rich dude. She lives in a tiny cottage and wears plain peasant clothing.
If anything, she's probably poor, or at least lower middle class.

yo

[caecilia]

am I the only one who read the "rich dad" comment as being kind of sarcastic?

[rbhudson]

lol That's such a specific thing to be annoyed about. But I agree.

[(Anonymous)]

Some choice lines from the song, OP, that I think you missed out on.

"Look there she goes
The girl is strange, no question
Dazed and distracted, can't you tell?
Never part of any crowd
Cause her head's up on some cloud
No denying she's a funny girl, that Belle"

"Look, there she goes, that girl is so peculiar
I wonder if she's feeling well?
With a dreamy, far-off look
And her nose stuck in a book
What a puzzle to the rest of us is Belle"

"Now it's no wonder that her name means "beauty"
Her looks have got no parallel
But behind that fair facade
I'm afraid she's rather odd
Very different from the rest of us
She's nothing like the rest of us
Yes, different from the rest of us is Belle"

"Look there she goes, a girl who's strange but special
A most peculiar mademoiselle
It's a pity and a sin
She doesn't quite fit in
Cause she really is a funny girl
A beauty but a funny girl
She really is a funny girl, that Belle!"

Yup, totally completely harmless commentary, and they can take time out to stare but not talk when ASKING her something.

[(Anonymous)]

what bugs me in retrospect is "the same old bread and rolls to sell"

in provincial France

i bet those fresh bread and rolls are FUCKING AMAZING

[(Anonymous)]

Rich daddies what

Are you the same person who was saying that Belle was insensitive to the town folk dealing with "the elements"