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⌈ Secret Post #2676 ⌋

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Fan interpretations of characters you don't agree with

[(Anonymous)]

What are fan interpretations of characters you think are off, and it annoys you when you see them? (GC, what better place to rant about fandom!)
It annoys me whenever I see Aziraphale interpreted as moe, incredibly innocent and sweet, and needing protection from Crowley. Do people forget that he's supposed to be a bit of a bastard, and was a relatively higher ranking angel who carried a sword?

Re: Fan interpretations of characters you don't agree with

[(Anonymous)]

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*oops, not from Crowley, by Crowley

Re: Fan interpretations of characters you don't agree with

[(Anonymous)]

A flaming sword at that!

Re: Fan interpretations of characters you don't agree with

[philstar22]

Movieverse!Loki was not abused and he was treated equally to Thor by both parents right up until the moment he turned evil. I hate abusive!Odin and bad brother!Thor interpretations.

The Doctor is not 12 separate people. I know there is a range of legitimate interpretations, though I personally lean more towards the same man just changing and growing interpretations. However, I dislike interpretations that go so far that they pretty much treat him like 12 separate people.

Thor is not an idiot. He doesn't understand human culture and he isn't a scientific genius the way Tony and Bruce are. Doesn't make him an idiot, and I hate interpretations that treat him that way. He's also not a hyperactive teenage. He's happy a lot and has a fairly optimistic viewpoint. But he doesn't exclaim every sentence. And he eats things besides poptarts.

Neither Harry nor Ron are idiots. They're just lazy. They aren't Hermione-smart, true, but the fact that they get okay grades in spite of slacking off and doing nothing says they are both on the smarter side. I think Harry's a bit smarter than Ron, but neither of them are stupid.

Re: Fan interpretations of characters you don't agree with

[(Anonymous)]

The Doctor is not 12 separate people.

You might not say that if you've seen The Five Doctors, OP. (I have no idea what they did for the 50th, so can't speak to that.)

Re: Fan interpretations of characters you don't agree with

[jaybie_jarrett]

"Neither Harry nor Ron are idiots. They're just lazy. They aren't Hermione-smart, true, but the fact that they get okay grades in spite of slacking off and doing nothing says they are both on the smarter side. I think Harry's a bit smarter than Ron, but neither of them are stupid."

THANK. FUCKING. YOU.

I swear I get so sick of interpretations where Harry and Ron (especially Ron) are treated as hopeless idiots. I remember seeing this horrible fic where Hermione was just "the most precious perfect thing" and Ron was horrible and abused her. But what they didn't realize is, that by earlier saying that Ron was "stupid and a horrible wizard" it's kind of a backhanded insult to Hermione and her abilities.

But ugh. I swear so many people forget that about both of them.

Re: Fan interpretations of characters you don't agree with

[forgottenjester]

Pretty much all of them. *Shrug* I don't let it bother me. I figure I just have a very skewed view of characters. I mean, some people have come close but I've never seen a perfect match.

Re: Fan interpretations of characters you don't agree with

[badass_tiger]

I hate how everyone forgets that Crowley praised Aziraphale for being a bit of a bastard. That was my favourite thing about Aziraphale! And did everyone forget about the people who keep coming to his shop, commenting on how flammable the place is? Who even knows what Aziraphale did to them!

I don't know what's wrong with the Tumblr Discworld fandom lately. It's like a bunch of kids still in their weaboo phase infiltrated it and started woobie-fying people. Vetinari is not a precious little baby who needs protection from Vimes or whatever. And if it's not the young 'uns, it's the SJWs. I sound like a bitter old lady, I know.

Oh and Professor Layton fans who make the professor seem like a meek little guy who hides behind Emmy all the time need to replay the games. Maybe with help from someone who can translate the longer words.

MLP: FIM

[feotakahari]

All of the Mane Six except Applejack and arguably Fluttershy have fairly common interpretations that focus them around a single trait, to the point of distorting or erasing their ability to recognize when that trait bothers other ponies. Pinkie is a particularly bad case in that this sometimes extends to canon--her ability to recognize when she's irritating other ponies in her attempts to amuse them varies wildly from writer to writer. In fanon, Rarity similarly becomes so prissy and whiny that she won't stop complaining about mud when venturing into the Everfree Forest to save a friend's life, and Rainbow Dash becomes so blunt that she'll tell the absolute truth in the most crushing manner possible even knowing how much it will hurt, and Twilight gets so wrapped up in her experiments that she neglects to consider the happiness or even safety of the ponies being experimented upon. (Surprisingly, fanon Applejack almost always recognizes the value of a white lie, and fanon Fluttershy is seldom so timid as to prevent her from being heroic.)

If that was a big brick wall of text, here's the little LEGO version: all of these ponies are friends with each other. They're not sufficiently mean or self-absorbed to drive each other away, and that means they must be at least tolerable to be around.

Re: Fan interpretations of characters you don't agree with

[(Anonymous)]

I hate fanon interpretation of Castiel. He is not some swooning woobie, argh argh argh. Please stop describing him as delicate. Or blushing. AGH.

Re: Fan interpretations of characters you don't agree with: Eridan

[(Anonymous)]

Eridan has two conflicting canon-verse interpretations, and I don't agree with either of them: precious perfect little innocent who is in no way to blame for murdering multiple people in cold blood (he didn't know Sollux wasn't dead or Kanaya would come back), or horrid sociopathic monster with absolutely no redeeming qualities.

And the human AU tends to make him a artsy hipster-type, for no reason I can determine. That's easier to deal with, though.

Re: Fan interpretations of characters you don't agree with

[(Anonymous)]

Spinning this on its head - I actually prefer some of the fanon versions of the Sherlock BBC characters to the canon versions.

Re: Fan interpretations of characters you don't agree with

[(Anonymous)]

Almost all of the interpretations of Stiles: pack mom, a magician equal to Harry Potter, a drag queen...

Re: Fan interpretations of characters you don't agree with

[(Anonymous)]

In Yu-Gi-Oh! fandom, interpretations of Yuugi, Bakura and Shizuka as naive, pure-as-fresh-snow innocents. Yuugi watches porn, Bakura is into the occult and Shizuka's idea of a joke is tricking someone into thinking their friend is in a coma. Come on now.

Re: Fan interpretations of characters you don't agree with

[(Anonymous)]

Rumpelstiltskin is not actually a coward.

Re: Fan interpretations of characters you don't agree with

[(Anonymous)]

Loki is not an unthinking blob of malevolence and evil. He has reasons for his actions - even if the other characters don't agree with his reasons or see the situations in the same way that he does. Loki can be selfish and spiteful, but he doesn't set out to be "evil" - he gets in over his head and his pride prevents him from backpedaling. Also, Asgardian culture has some problems if both of Odin's sons come to the conclusion at different points in their lives that the best way to win their father's approval is through genocide. Loki didn't become the person he became in isolation; he's a product of his upbringing.

Re: Fan interpretations of characters you don't agree with

[nightscale]

MCU: Poor abused bb Loki, just no, the guy is a vicious shit all on his own and it's his own choices that have caused him to fall as far as he has, no one else's. Dumb!Thor, there is a mild culture-clash when he first arrives but he adapts really quickly tbh, and given how high tech Asgard is I doubt he has all that many problems with computers, also poptarts(for the love of god this one needs to die). Technologically-confused!Steve, he uses a laptop just fine in a deleted scene in the Avengers and in TWS his apartment is filled with the standard gadgets every home has that he clearly understands how to use, a coffee machine(and really why is it always a coffee machine?) is not going to confound him.

L4D2: Ellis being a complete dumbass, I don't see him as some kind of super-genius(although if someone wants to write him that way I have no complaints) but so often he gets written as so stupid that I wonder how he manages to tie his own shoelaces. He also gets written as far too naive, the dude knows what sex is, stop writing him like he's a fourteen year old who just discovered porn.

Re: Fan interpretations of characters you don't agree with

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, almost all of the popular fan character interpretations in the Shingeki no Kyojin fandom. Easy stereotypes > nuancy seems to be the rule.

Re: Fan interpretations of characters you don't agree with

[darkmanifest]

Thor's not an idiot, and Steve's not your bigoted grandpa pining for the hearty simple good old days. Itachi's not a delicate tortured woobie...nobody is a delicate tortured woobie. I'm trying to think of one character who has ever fit that definition and coming up blank. It is an abomination.

Re: Fan interpretations of characters you don't agree with

[(Anonymous)]

All of the prevalent fanon interpretations for the five boys of Gundam Wing.

Re: Fan interpretations of characters you don't agree with

[caffeine_buzz]

K Project fandom: Nothing makes me back button out of a fic faster than Yata Misaki the delicate weepy uke and rapist stalker Fushimi. For that matter, I'm not much of a fan of super-suave and confident seme Fushimi either (fandom has a bad tendency make post-series Yata a wibbly ball of sadness and then have Fushimi pretty much end up as his emotional support when canon Fushimi can barely even support himself emotionally). I also really doubt the guy who can barely bring himself to interact socially with anyone is actually a total sex god who's had multiple partners.

Re: Fan interpretations of characters you don't agree with

[caecilia]

so agreed on aziraphale

I don't think anyone gets any of the homestuck characters, tbh.

Re: Fan interpretations of characters you don't agree with

[inthecorner]

Captain America (Movie Verse) cutting himself and having self-harm scars.

I don't know if it's because of my own history with self-harm or how it's tends to a short-cut way of saying "Look, this is character is sad and depressed~~~!" without knowing how depression actually works, but the rare times I see that head canon annoyed the hell out of me.

Re: Fan interpretations of characters you don't agree with

[(Anonymous)]

This new fandom idea that post-IM3/TWS Tony would go after Bucky after hearing that he probably had a hand in Howard and Maria's deaths.

Like how about no, MCU fandom. Tony is not the revenge type. He saw that consume Ivan Vanko, he's not going to let the same happen to him. That and Tony is smart enough to know that if anyone deserves blame for what happened IT WOULD BE HYDRA FOR BRAINWASHING BUCKY.

I know the MCU fandom loves making Tony their source of angst supplements, but it's just insulting at this point.

Re: Fan interpretations of characters you don't agree with

[(Anonymous)]

Schmucks who think Captain America would be politically conservative because he missed a few decades. All that means is that he just got here from a time when unions were respected, war profiteering was a crime, and the top marginal income tax bracket was 90%. If anything, he'd be wildly pissed off that people have been rolling back the New Deal that quite literally saved his life.

And don't tell me he'd be backward on social issues--if you're familiar with the character's history (but of course that's too much to ask) you might know that one of his best friends growing up was gay, and he took a firm stance in favor of gay rights in FUCKING 1982, so if you write him as a Fox News fan, your ignorance does you no credit.