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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-03 03:59 pm

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[personal profile] vethica 2014-05-03 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahaha same. I used to be a giant incest shipper and I have two siblings. Oddly enough I do not want to bang said siblings! What a concept.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you sure you don't want to bang them?

(Anonymous) 2014-05-04 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
It is possible, but non-incest shipper don't seem to understand that.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll vouch for that. My brother and I are a lot like Simon and River Tam, whom I ship (judge away), but I have no romantic interest in my brother.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooooooooh, CSI! Definitely my ship of choice in Firefly.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-04 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
Personally I kinda ship Don/Samantha Flack a little bit, but ofc I do not insist on banging my siblings :P

(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Amen. Most of my ships are incest, but surprisingly I do not in fact want to have sex with my brother (nor with my father, despite having some parent/child ships). Then again the anti-incest brigade is generally one of the most obnoxious, judgemental bunch of assholes in fandom.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Also those who think slashers have never had a significant platonic relationship with a person of the same sex. I'm not a slasher myself, but really. Some people just like two guys (or gals) together.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
This is true for so many of my kinks, seriously.

fiction =/= real life

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I get what you're saying but disagree. I understand it's fiction. Fantasy. Not based in reality at all. But I still cannot ever separate the idea of sibling relationships from at least slightly connected to thinking of my own siblings. And the idea of incest just wigs me out.

That's not to say that I go around bashing incest shippers. I just leave them alone to do their thing, like I hope people would do for me and my kinks and ships.

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[personal profile] elaminator 2014-05-03 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
It amuses me too. I understand that even the thought of fictional incest creeps a lot of people out (which is perfectly fine!), but when people go on about how 'you must not have siblings' I laugh. Thankfully I don't see much of that around anymore.
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[personal profile] cindyanne1 2014-05-03 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I know what you mean! I wrote a fictional story once that included incest, and people were saying I should have my kids taken away because of it. :\

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I have three major incest ships (two brother/sister, one father/son), and shockingly I have a completely normal family life with no desire whatsoever to bang any of them!

Like, I get it if even fictional incest squicks you, that's fine and no one's judging, it's when you get up on that soapbox and start harumphing down the length of your nose at people that it gets annoying. Assuming that people that like incest ships must have fucked up relationships with their families is like assuming that people that like horror movies would like seeing real people getting slashed up.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Same tbh. Okay sure, I don't have siblings, so I don't understand The True Reality Of What Having Siblings Is Like. I have other family members and don't want to fuck them, though? Oh but no, because I write brotherfucking I absolutely must want to sleep with my own family members, that's definitely how it works. You know, like how all crime fiction writers are serial killers waiting to happen and fantasy writers are all secretly dragons or something.

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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-05-03 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
idk I find incest creepy and I have siblings and...that's part of the reason I think it's creepy.

But I don't think everyone who likes incest projects that onto their family irl. It's a big ymmv thing how you respond to a hot-button kink like that.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep, I judge these people too.

I have a brother and a sister, and we are all very close and get along great.
Yet some of my favorite ships? Sam/Dean, Kili/Fili & Thor/Loki.

My shipping preferences have absolutely nothing to do with my real life.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with you. I have only one incest ship (come on, Wizards Of Waverly Place was basically incestship bait ._.), so it's not like a ... kink for me or anything, but it doesn't really feel different to shipping other ships?
I don't have a brother, but I do have a sister and I never had sleepless nights there. They're fictional characters. There is lots of stuff you can do with/to fictional characters without never ever wanting these things in real life.

I do understand when others could never ship an incest ship and find it creepy and that's fine.

What does confuse me, as someone coming from a country where it's technically allowed to marry your cousin is, that people often react to shipping fictional cousins the same way as they would react to siblings for example and I don't get that at all?
Everyone acts like a potential child would 100% have terrible birth defects etc.
(No, I never wanted to marry my cousin, it's just not that weird/gross of a concept to me. *shrugs*)

(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I still think twincest is mostly due to people not getting having a twin.
I'm extremely grossed out by it.

Then again, my own twin totally ships twincest.

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[personal profile] applemagpie 2014-05-04 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, those arguments irritate me too. Like other people here have said, sometimes there is a stark divide between fiction and reality. I've also shipped pairings with shitloads of sadistic and unhealthy elements. But it doesn't mean I would support a relationship like that in real life.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-04 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
Especially amusing to me because most of the incest shippers I've known personally have had siblings and ship what they ship because people are different and the relationships between those particular fictional siblings didn't ping as sibling relationships to them.
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[personal profile] beverlykatz 2014-05-04 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
Same. I have a younger brother, and I ship some incest stuff. No connection in my mind. Plus, there aren't a lot of fictional sibling relationships that ping me as genuine, specifically when it comes to adults. I don't know if it's an issue with the writing or the acting (if it's a show/movie) or what, but most of the time I just see two people who happen to share a surname.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-04 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think incest shipping is gross, but that's because I never get past thinking that it's mostly a sign of desperation. Like, really? You couldn't have enjoyed the canon without a ship? You were so desperate to ship a slash/femslash/het pairing that you went with incest?

I know that's not true for most fans of incest pairings, but it really seems that way sometimes when the most popular pairings for a fandom are incest and also happen to be the only slash/femslash fish in the sea. (Looking at you, Frozen and early season Supernatural fandoms.)
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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2014-05-04 08:50 am (UTC)(link)
I frequently ship incest.

You know what I don't ship? Grey/Noddy (my brothers). Because I know they bug the shit out of each other and can only get along if they are in the same room for less than an hour.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-09 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't go "you've never had siblings/must be weird". Because that's just not the right tactic, and it ignores the actual root of the problem with incest shippers.

It's "you don't understand how incest is fundamentally founded in abuse and you grossly romanticize it, which makes me want to punch you in the throat because incest is not like that, will never be like that, and you should be ashamed of dressing it up and getting off to it." or "you've never been in an incestuous 'relationship' or you'd never fucking fantasize/glamorize it."

But i am 1000% okay with kink shaming people who fantasize about a romantic version of the abuse I suffered, and nobody likes hearing about that.

I solve the problem by not associating with anybody who writes/ships incest, or older male/younger male pedo grooming bullshit as "normative" or "desirable" or "romantic". I cut those shitfuckers out of my life like the cancers they are and not a /goddamn thing of value is lost./