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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-30 07:07 pm

[ SECRET POST #2736 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2736 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-30 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
There are people arguing that Frozen "tried something new"?
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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-06-30 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Why did DW make my comment anonymous?
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[personal profile] morieris 2014-06-30 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep

"TWO ladies - depression and anxiety allegory - DON'T FALL IN LOVE WITH THAT MAN YOU JUST MET HIM!!!!"
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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-06-30 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I wonder if any other Disney movies could be interpreted as an allegory for mental illness. I do know that there are other relationships between women I love in Disney movies and Enchanted did that last one.
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[personal profile] morieris 2014-06-30 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I've seen people consider Vanellope a stand in for a neurological diseaseand Calhoun for PTSD (Not exactly what you asked for, but I relate to her on that 'avoid people but do what you want' thing)

(Anonymous) 2014-07-01 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Fun Fact: The Beast was an allegory for Aids.

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[personal profile] gabzillaz 2014-06-30 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't forget the gay couple in the sauna.
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[personal profile] vethica 2014-06-30 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Wasn't that proven to actually be a straight couple?

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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-06-30 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I am making the same face as your icon right now. I forgot about that. It's just so wonderful to be represented for half a second.

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-01 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Err, how was Frozen an allegory for mental illness? Seems like a stretch.
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[personal profile] morieris 2014-07-01 06:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Elsa's shutting herself away and hiding her powers.

+ Word of God.

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-01 06:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Not to me. A lot of of Elsa's actions and reactions seemed very relatable to what I go through when I'm depressed and anxious.

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-30 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Movie that focused on the relationship of two sisters (whose love for each other was more important than the romantic love)
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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-06-30 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Lilo and Stitch.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-30 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
No. Lilo and Stitch was about an ALIEN and a young girl. The sister's relationship was like plot D. Plot A: Stitch learning to be nice and whatever Plot B: Stitch avoiding being captured. Plot C: The older sister avoiding Lilo getting take away by child protective services Plot D: The sister's relationship.

In frozen, Plot A is about the sisters and other plots follow that.

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-30 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Guess we're only allowed to have one (1) movie about sisters.

Can you really blame people for not remembering a movie that came out a decade ago, and whose sequels and series were all about the alien and the little girl?

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-30 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Lilo and Stitch never made the contrast between romantic love and familial love.

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-02 12:33 pm (UTC)(link)
No. I am so fucking sick of this. I love L&S, but it's called Lilo & Stitch, not Lilo & Nani. It's about an alien and a little girl, and the relationship of the sisters is secondary. Nani gets to sit back and do absolutely nothing in the way of Lilo's rescue. Hell, they could have taken our a large majority of the sisters and lost family plot and just made Lilo a weird girl and shit would still make sense.

Frozen, at least, has the relationship of the sisters be the goddamned point and what saves everything.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-30 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
For Disney it did. Not generally.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-01 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
First Disney movie where the princess became a Queen.
First Disney movie where the bond between two sisters moved the plot and solved the conflict.
First Disney movie where a main young woman character doesn't like or end up with a guy.
First Disney movie where a woman builds a castle.
Also she gave life to snow which was pretty weird.

It's not a whole new experience because Disney likes their formulas but it is definitely subverted enough from the usual to make it unique.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-01 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
First Disney movie where the princess became a Queen.

Just because you and Disney want to forget about Atlantis: the Lost Empire doesn't mean it'll actually happen.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-01 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Kida should be in the official princess lineup and I will not be convinced otherwise. (Elsa made it, why can't she?)

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-01 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
First Disney movie where a main young woman character doesn't like or end up with a guy.

Yeah, that only happened because there were two princesses. Find me a Disney movie where THE main young woman character doesn't end up with a guy, and then we'll talk.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-01 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
da

Arguably Charlotte from Princess and the Frog. Charlotte was clearly not a main character but she was arguably the second most important female character in the film and it was a pretty big plot point that she didn't end up with a guy.

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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2014-07-01 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
1) Atlantis: The Lost Empire
2) Lilo and Stitch
3) Mulan
4) Lol what
5) Rapunzel had magical hair.

I swear it's like when Frozen came out everybody collectively forgot about every other Disney animated movie ever. I remember when I was a kid, I enjoyed Disney films that came out decades before I was born. What the hell is this generation doing?