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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-07-26 03:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #2762 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2762 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 07:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Is it possible this conversation was taken out of context, though? A lot of people portray Charlie as this sexaholic, or at least a very "lucky" man, so it may have been a subversion. Maybe, I dunno.

Having said that, yeah, I don't think he's necessarily asexual, he just... never got married. A lot of people don't.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-30 05:18 am (UTC)(link)
Except JK pretty much confirmed that he had no sexual interest in any gender with her "he's too interested in dragons to notice girls" and "no he is not gay!!!!" responses on if he would ever get married.

I think the oddest thing about this secret is that an asexual doesn't want representation, if that comes from people picking up on it from their lack of sex life. It's kind of like a gay person no wanting a character to be label "gay" just because people picked up on that that character only had crushes on the same sex. Maybe that character is bisexual. It is a possibility, but people can only work with the information they are given.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
The drive to declare characters as "asexual" is driven by lonely nerds who are too terrified to ask anyone out, and too damn unpleasant for anyone to say yes to even if they did. Its sort of a validation of their enforced sexuality. They aren't throwing all their energy into a nerdy pastime taken up to extremes out of blue-balls, they are "asexual" just like how they head-canon some fictional character. They aren't not getting any due to their own terror and insecurity, no not at all; it is because they are "asexual".

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi. Asexual. Occasionally has sex. Just not interested in it.

Nothing to do with being socially awkward.

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I kind of agree with you. If it were less common in fandom, I'd doubt your diagnosis but, seriously, some of the "sexuality" threads here are like 70% asexual, which seems totally statistically wrong.

DA

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[personal profile] iggy 2014-07-27 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
Asexual here who is in fandom, but has had plenty of opportunities to 'get some' and just didn't want to.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-27 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
Asexual here. I have had sex before and I could have pretty much all the sex I wanted - I'm a conventionally attractive, cute-as-hell girl living in my city's Student Central. I could have unlimited sex. Just all of the sex. And having lots of sex wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, I guess. But, I'm just not really interested in sex. I don't want it, don't need it, don't desire it or crave it. My being asexual isn't because of a lack of access, it's a lack of desire. I mean, I could also go out into my garden and eat all the grass there, it's pretty much unlimited, but I just don't want it. Same principle.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep, another reason why I can't stand tumblr's asexual communities.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
"What if ___ is a ____?"

I don't see where you're getting "OMG CHARLIE IS ASEXUAL ITS CANON" from that.

What if Charlie is sexually attracted to beets? I don't know, what if he is? That sounds like a fanfic premise, not like a declaration of canonicity.
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[personal profile] vethica 2014-07-26 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Charlie is Dwight Schrute?

(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I have seen people reply to this specific comment with "#what do you mean ‘what if’ that’s literally what happened", which is a little bit annoying ngl but I agree, I don't see a problem with the original post.
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[personal profile] akacat 2014-07-26 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup. Fanfic would be pretty dull if nobody was asking "what if".
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[personal profile] cushlamochree 2014-07-26 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't have any problem with people saying "Hey wouldn't it be cool" and that's all I see in that image

(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought j.k.Rowling said something like this? I mean if he had a lot of sex it probably wouldn't be in the books for obvious reasons. On the scale of people who I have seen asexual head-canons about this one makes a moderate amount of sense.

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[personal profile] feotakahari 2014-07-26 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't knock "what if?" That's where fic comes from. "What if he's asexual" isn't that different from "what if he's gay?" or "what if he's a vampire?"

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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-07-26 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
This is why I have a hard time believing that people claiming their headcanon is canon is as common as people around here say it is. All I ever see is people like OP complaining about innocent "what if?"s.

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry but how does headcanoning a character who has no interest in dating as asexual make it more difficult for real people who are asexual to be taken seriously? Are you afraid to be told that you're not a real asexual because you date? Because at least on tumblr people are very aware of the sexual/romantic orientation split and characters get headcanoned as "asexual homo-/hetero-/biromantic" all the time. Which is also something the people with a hate-boner for tumblr complain about as "constant overlabeling".

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I'm sorry, what?

(Anonymous) 2014-07-27 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
I think that's great deal more evidence than many in fandom need for any conclusion that they come to.

"Did you see that look he gave him? He's totally in love with him." "Did you see the expression on his face when his father said that? His father abused him as a child." "Did you see that little gesture? They're totally doing it."
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[personal profile] iggy 2014-07-27 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
JK Rowling said he was more interested in dragons than romance, so it's more than just 'he's not paired'. I'd think that lends more credence to him being aromantic, but yes.

(This coming from someone who is both aromantic and asexual, I highly approve of that being applied to Charlie, and I don't think it makes aces sound 'weird' when it is.)

(Anonymous) 2014-07-27 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, fuck off. Just admit you don't like people interpreting characters as asexual, rather than trying to dress it up like you're doing us a favour by objecting to it.

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-27 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
that tumblr post makes it sound more like he wants to fuck dragons

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[personal profile] arcadiaego 2014-07-27 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
It's just a what if. They're not saying it's canon, just having fun with idle speculation. Where's the evidence that says he isn't? Plus given that in HP world everyone has to a) pair up in nice heterosexual marriages with people they met at school or b) die, being asexual seems more plausible than just not having found the right girl.
Edited 2014-07-27 20:26 (UTC)