[ SECRET POST #2776 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2776 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

It depresses me too. Which is why I was SOOOO happy when I saw *SPOILERS* Hiccup's mom in How to Train Your Dragon 2. His dad was still a central focus -- but I love how they showed so much of his character was derived from his mother.

I love father-son relationships, but they're a dime a dozen in media. Just like male friendships. Try to find mother-daughter relationships or female friendships and they're a lot rarer, unfortunately.

[(Anonymous)]

Yep.

To be fair, it's not like there are never mothers given the kind of story and character importance fathers get. There are. They just don't seem to be as common.

And (pairs of) brothers seem to show up more often than (pairs of) sisters, though I don't think that difference is quite as marked.

[(Anonymous)]

It's a shame.

I guess a lot more writers and artists have father issues than have mother issues.

[(Anonymous)]

Eh, all I can think of right now is how in Pokémon you never have a dad and all the focus is on the mom.

[(Anonymous)]

Let's have a list of stories where the mothers and their relationship with their children are important then.

(I-It's not like I'm asking for recs or kicks or anything like that...)

[kallanda_lee]

Well, you have a point. It saddens me because I've very much been a "momma's girl" growing up, and I just do not see that sort of relationship represented a lot.

I loved Archer's relationship with his mom on the show of the same name, because while completely dysfunctional, I still sort of love they chose to highlight the relationship.

I don't resent good father-son, or father-daughter relationships (I love those dynamics, too) - it's just that there's a major imbalance.

[peablossom]

That's not true, the mothers just have to be dead to have any significant impact on their kids!

[(Anonymous)]

The reason this happens is because the film industry is run by men so they inherently find the father/son dynamic more interesting. Brave was taken away from it's female director because the men running Pixar were not interested in the Mother/Daughter story and wanted to add more action into the story.

Mother stories are often a huge stereotype as well, we really need more women writers and directors running things.

[meishuu]

Yup. It's pretty depressing. Nowadays I make a conscious effort to look for media where the mothers are the important ones, the mentors, where female friendships and relationships are on the forefront.

...Yeah, there's not much to choose from.

[intrigueing]

Pretty much this. Not to mention moms are often portrayed so boringly. They're usually sweet nurturing supportive but passive figures when portrayed positively, or neglectful snotty shrews when portrayed negatively. I would really like a lot more variety and complexity in both negative and positive portrayals of mothers.

Seriously, why is it never the case that some dude has angst because his MOTHER was an evil tyrant or a space Nazi or never had time for him or something? Mommy issues are always portrayed as pathetic, like the only reason man should be affected by his mother after he becomes an adult is that he's some pathetic mama's boy weenie and/or has some creepy Oedipal complex vibe.

[(Anonymous)]

+1 fuck all of that. D:

[nightscale]

Agreed, I love father-son or father-daughter relationships in the media but I really wish there were just as many mother-daughter and mother-son stories too. Neither one is better than the other but the latter is always so underrepresented.

[otakugal15]

....are you new? This has been going for decades.

If we got more mom movies, I'd be happier myself, but I won't exactly knock a dad/progeny movie either so long as it's good.

Moms are more important sometimes...

[(Anonymous)]

Like in villain origin stories! Yay for the cliche/stereotype/worrying cultural assumption that a bad mother is the root cause of all evil done by her children!!!1!

[forgottenjester]

There are shows of both though.

[(Anonymous)]

Ehhh, I think a lot of shows do have mothers. While I get what you're saying, idk, there is a significant amount of media with mother/daughter or mother/son relationships. (there's even a trope in the fantasy genre where the protagonist is only allowed one parent, and that parent will be the opposite gender)

[(Anonymous)]

I watch a lot of Japanese and Korean dramas, which made me realize that mother-child relationships are more prevalent there.

[(Anonymous)]

Disney-Dead-Mom-Syndrome irks me even though I love Disney films. They're getting better about it, though!

[gabzillaz]

Same.

[dinogrrl]

Women being underrepresented/poorly represented in media (compared to men) is a pretty well-known fact but the Media Powers That Be are way behind the times and don't really care.

[(Anonymous)]

Why can't we have both parents.

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[(Anonymous)]

I think part of the reason that fiction which revolves around kids' adventure stories has a lot of absent moms is because there's a perception that kids are not going to get their nifty solo adventures if mom is around. I mean, the usual tropes -"sneaking out of the house," "going away to a parallel universe" - they're a lot harder to do if a Good Mom is around, mom-ing. So classic stories took away the mom so the kids could get their solo adventures. I wish that hadn't become such a tradition, it bugs me.

It's a freaking bizarre trope

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, yeah, you are not alone.

It's really weird to me, because I was raised by my mother, and both my parents were substantially raised by their mothers.

I could get some story out of my issues with my father, but no doubt my mother was much, much more important to how I grew up.

[diet_poison]

I feel like this is basically another reflection of the male-centeredness of media, and it's changing, even if it's a slow change.