[ SECRET POST #2889 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2889 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[fscom]

03. http://i.imgur.com/lQatvQD.png

[(Anonymous)]

So not looking forward to the inevitable Sharon hate...

[(Anonymous)]

ugh i know. i remember when the first cap 2 trailer came out and even though Sharon litterally got only like 5 seconds of screentime and didnt have any lines, assbags were already shitting on her.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree, mostly. I don't dislike her per say, but I can't ship her with Steve for the same reason I can't ship Tony Stark or Phil Coulson with Steve either. The idea of combining a generational gap with characters who probably had childhood hero ideas about Captain America is a huge, huge squick for me.

[(Anonymous)]

*per se

Oops.

[(Anonymous)]

The generational gap wouldn't bother me nearly as much of Steve and Peggy hadn't been in love. And part of my problem with it is the dynamics of it. Sharon's a rookie agent, so why the hell would they send her to guard Steve -- freaking Captain America of all people? If he can't protect himself then send someone experienced. A rookie would be next to useless. And I just get the feeling like Sharon was only put there in hopes that Steve would fall in love with her since she's related to Peggy. Which squicks me the hell out.

That and I just…don't buy it, I guess. It feels like the rationale is "he was a boy, she was a girl, could it get any more obvious?" which just…doesn't work for me. A big reason for why Steve and Peggy worked for me was that they had so much in common. They both were denied opportunities and had to fight for them based on how/what they were born. And that Steve would respect someone like Peggy -- who didn't have a very traditional role in the 1940s -- is especially relevant given that he was brought up by his single mother. There was a common ground for them that really rooted the relationship.

And Steve himself says, in reply to Natasha, that it's hard to find someone with shared life experience. Well…what shared life experience do Steve and Sharon have more than any of the other women Natasha tried to set him up on dates with? Especially when you compare how much more Steve has with Natasha herself, Bucky, or Sam.

[(Anonymous)]

Raise your hand if you were deeply disappointed that this wasn't a Revenge secret.

*hand up*

[(Anonymous)]

What's a revenge secret?

[(Anonymous)]

SAME. O/

[(Anonymous)]

*raises hand*

*raises other hand too because not sure what fandom secret is actually about even after reading the comments*

[(Anonymous)]

We just met her. Of course she's not yet as interesting as main characters we've seen in multiple movies. Also, be glad she's just the niece and not the daughter or granddaughter. Steve's not the kind of person who views women as interchangeable, so it should be fine once it's developed.

[kaijinscendre]

I don't really think she will be? Though if she is, it'd be weird because he was in love with her aunt. That creeps me out in the same way fics that have Steve/Howard and later Steve/Tony. It is just squicky.

[kallanda_lee]

Yeah, same.

It's not the "replacement goldfish" thing for me, really. And I liked her as a character. I just saw zero chemistry (even when he did ask her for coffee) and from what I've seen they make a pretty bland pair in the comics, too.

And it's not that I'm a bitter Stucky shipper. I don't think that will realistically happen, and I actually like BuckyNat in the comics.

At this point I think I'd just prefer Steve single.

[elaminator]

I have no issue with Sharon herself (though of course she hasn't been given much screen-time, so as of now anyone: Bucky, Nat, Sam, would make more sense paired with Steve, at least for me), she's been pretty cool (also, who could blame her for flirting with Steve Rogers?), but her being related to Peggy really squicks me out, too. Plus, there's no spark yet. We don't exactly know how much they have in common, or how 'good they are together', so I can't overcome the whole 'Peggy's niece' thing. Maybe they don't need to have much in common besides finding each other attractive, but since Steve mentioned 'shared life experience' idk; we'll see what happens, but I don't think her few scenes with Steve in TWS were supposed to make us ship them hardcore. Marvel is probably looking to add more build-up later. (Though frankly, I would be perfectly fine with one or two of the Avengers not getting paired up, though I realize how unlikely this is.)

[ninety6tears]

I really try to avoid the "what's so special about her?" mindset but aside from the relation to Peggy (which I hope is never openly mentioned) I'm just so...completely unexcited by the prospect.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm pretty indifferent about the potential love interest plot, I just wish it was a different actress. I only know her from Revenge and I from what I've seen of her there, she is a painfully terrible actress.

[(Anonymous)]

Well since there's plenty of speculation that Steve might not even survive his next solo film, you probably won't have to worry about any long term love interests.

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't read the original Sharon Carter arc in the comics. I know she was killed off at one point, maybe because she was a replacement goldfish. (She came back later, on the theory that after 20 years the excuse that, "She's a spy, she faked her death," would seem plausible.)

I read Captain America in the 1980's, when Sharon was dead, and Cap was with a woman named Bernie (who eventually married someone else) and then the reformed supervillain Diamondback. I liked both of them, I have no attachment to Sharon.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, as much as I'd like for her role in the next Cap solo movie to be bigger since I really liked her in TWS (which came as a surprise, as her few but obnoxious stans plus her unimpressive part in the comics-arc made me not look forward to her inclusion into the MCU at all), I sure hope they don't make her and Steve's relationship a romantic one.

Like, not every super hero movie needs a romance on the side? TWS highlighted that perfectly, even. Sure, Nat tries to set Steve up & they ahve a little talk about the state of his love-life in the car, there's some awkward flirting on Steve's part with Sharon's undercover persona, but that's it and the movie isn't any worse for it? (If anything, imo, it felt refreshing.)

Also, yes, Sharon would be a bad choice as a love interest anyway (given what Steve said to Nat re: finding someone with shared life experience, which of course isn't vital to a romantic relationship per se but seems to be important to Steve), and if they kept her related to Peggy in the MCU, it would just be completely weird and squicky.

[hwc]

To be honest, I didn't even get the vibe from the movie that she was supposed to be viewed as a possible love interest after it was revealed that she was SHIELD? Aside from the awkward flirting in the hallway it wasn't picked up again, and I thought finding out about her being SHIELD kind of killed any possible romantic feelings Steve might had? It seemed more to me that one of the reasons he asked Sharon out in the first place instead of one of the other women Natasha mentioned was because she wasn't affiliated with SHIELD and Captain America.

I do hope we'll see her in AoS, though. After Bobby I really want some other well-known SHIELD agents to rejoin SHIELD! Maybe Sharon can be their agent within the CIA.

[(Anonymous)]

You know OP, with Marvel is doing Civil War, Steve/Sharon might not happen at all.

[(Anonymous)]

My problem with MCU Sharon is that Chris Evans and Emily Vancamp had negative chemistry in TWS. Like, that was pretty much their only job as far as the interactions between their characters go, and they completely failed to deliver.

[iggy]

She hasn't had much screentime yet, so of course characters like Sam and Natasha are more interesting than her. That's not really a fair comparison. If she's still not very interesting after being in a movie for more than like--- five total minutes, then fair enough. But that's not the case. They barely HAVE a dynamic as of yet in the film. Judging it already seems premature. Perhaps they'll really pull it off in the next film.

That being said, we also don't know if she's Peggy's niece in this 'verse, do we?

[illiadandoddity]

You know what I would love? If movie!verse Sharon Carter isn't related to Peggy Carter at all, they just happen to share the same last name. It's not like Carter is a rare name or anything. And since they've already made her look different from Peggy (comics!verse Sharon was the spitting image of Peggy, for more creepiness added to the replacement goldfish trope), it wouldn't be that hard to do, and neatly solves a lot of the things I dislike about the pairing.

[(Anonymous)]

Arguably this raised-on-stories-of-heroism logic works against Tony too, so I'm rather pleased he wasn't listed as one of the alternative love interests.