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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-03-29 02:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #3007 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-03-29 07:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Log off Tumblr.

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(Anonymous) 2015-03-29 07:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't use Tumblr and have no interest in using Tumblr.

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(Anonymous) 2015-03-29 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I had the same realization about Stephen Fry before tumblr even became a thing
arcadiaego: Grey, cartoon cat Pusheen being petted (Default)

[personal profile] arcadiaego 2015-03-31 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
You don't need to be on Tumblr to hear about Stephen Fry. The fact that he has just left Instagram was literally a front page story on the Guardian yesterday. And dumb things he's said (like about women not wanting sex because they don't go cottaging) are publicised to a similar extent.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-29 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Having looked at some of his comments, I'd definitely say they're sexist but I don't know that they're due to hating women so much as they are out of ignorance. The man is gay so he's never been in a romantic relationship with women. It seems like he's just speaking as someone whose understanding of women on this level comes from other men and pop culture, which is heavily biased/incorrect in so many ways.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-29 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
he would probably not-so-politely disagree with you, like he did with some kid once who accused him of being an upperclass twat looking down on juvenile delinquents. And then he would pat your back in a paternal way.

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[personal profile] sarillia 2015-03-29 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Who said anything about him hating women?

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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2015-03-29 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I get the feeling this is the case. I mean, I once heard him say something along the lines of: when I was born, I took one look at my mother's vagina, and knew I never wanted to be near one again" (he said this as a joke, btw). And, I can see ow that attitude can be perceived as sexist - but it also seems to be consistent with someone who is just very very gay. I actually know two gay guys like that - one is actually uncomfortable around female lingerie, he other is grossed out by straight sex. (I can't even be mad, because I swear it's hilarious).

But yeah, I sort of get that same vibe from Fry. Sort of a "girls are yucky" in the sense an 7-year-old would have.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-29 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Let me guess, you're a cis white woman, but you imagine you have many non-white, queer friends you bravely fight for --- by posting on the internet.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-29 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
...Why does it matter if OP is a cis white woman?

Fry's comments about women only putting up with sex for relationships IS rather sexist and judgmental.

I don't think he hates women or anything, but I think it's likely he's only talked to heterosexual men about het relationships and thus only heard their problems with relationships, instead of the women's perspectives.

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[personal profile] sapphireblack 2015-03-29 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll always love him in Blackadder and Fry & Laurie (and as Oscar Wilde), but he's slowly sunk in my estimation, mostly due to sexism and other forms of oblivious. Wouldn't bother me as much if people didn't think he was the epitome of intelligence and wisdom!

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(Anonymous) 2015-03-29 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
cis white guy

Nowadays this phrase makes me skip everything else that is being said by the person using it. Too bad you couldn't insert "straight" there. Oh well, two out of three is still good.

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[personal profile] caerbannog 2015-03-29 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry the trolls are jumping on you anon. I've never liked him much anyway but some of his interviews and comments have since firmed the dislike.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-03-29 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
An anon a few days ago got almost unanimous support in calling Fry an asshole. Does the wording really count for that much?

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(Anonymous) 2015-03-29 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Image: two pictures of Stephen Fry, one recent of him dressed as a woman, the other when he was younger, and wearing a bowler hat and black suit

Text: I used to absolutely ADORE Stephen Fry

I still have the photo from when I met him, I loved his books and films and TV, I practically worshipped him

But now I find him another infinitely tedious establishment cis white guy who thinks he’s not sexist.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-29 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
ia with you, op

(Anonymous) 2015-03-29 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
What's funny is how we're all allowed to hate Adam Baldwin for being a misogynist asswipe, but the Fryphiles will come out in droves to defend their previous Stephen.

Then there's the trolls who can't even spell his name right.

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elephantinegrace: (joffrey flower crown)

-cackles with glee-

[personal profile] elephantinegrace 2015-03-29 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
-browses secrets-

-sees 22-

-immediate skips to this comment section-

And damn, you all did not disappoint.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-29 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Atleast he's not another white cishet guy who thinks he's not a misogynist.

Small victory, but we have to take what we can get sometimes.

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(Anonymous) 2015-03-29 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
This is the reason I came to despise Terry Pratchett (I will not call him Sir).

I can't tell you how glad I was to hear his daughter's going to be undoing the sketchier parts of his work.

Of course you can't say this unanon, but fuck it. in b4 pratchett stans.

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(Anonymous) 2015-03-29 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I used to love his acting. IMO, he's never really turned in a bad performance and...I soooo wish he'd stuck to that. On the other hand, once I knew about the things about him I don't agree with and/or like, it started looking like those things were everywhere in his performances.

have heard about his sexism, but more than that, he has a lot of other flaws (like people said, smugness and etc) that make me really not like him anymore. He's following some pretty typical patterns, like there oughta be a Bingo card you could fill in and the only reason you wouldn't win is because he's also gay and of Jewish descent.

It's 2015, the fact that someone is openly gay is no longer a reason to ignore and excuse their personality flaws and/or annoying opinions.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-29 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
What I got from this thread: Simply just mentioning that you don't like sexism makes you automatically an evil irrational tumblr sjw.

Like lol, I find it pretty hilarious that anti-sjw'a biggest complaint about sjws seems to be that they "overreact" too much, but then threads like this happen.
Y'all are adorable hypocrites.

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(Anonymous) 2015-03-30 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
I can only tolerate Stephen Fry when he's with Hugh Laurie. I think Laurie grounds him or maybe just keeps him on his best behavior.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-30 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
"...thinks he's not sexist."

How can anyone win with that standard? Should he come out and say, "Well, yes, I am sexist?"

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