[ SECRET POST #3125 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3125 ⌋

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Comments

[ill_omened]

Looking forward to the possibility I'll be alive in the glorious future where stem cell research means that we'll actually have a way to deal with numerous disabilities, and genetic testing offers the possibility of removing countless horrific genetic diseases within a few generations in the west.

[(Anonymous)]

Certainly look forward to them being able to prevent autism.

[(Anonymous)]

Jut a question though what mental diseases/disabilities would you choose to completely get rid of? I'm just asking because there are some disorders like depression that I'd love to see gone, but other conditions that I would say aren't all bad or all good and the best way to deal with them is to raise awareness so that people know how to react with them and understand them, and try to use science to deal with parts of the disorder that cause more suffering than others.

I know autistic people for example who would love to get rid of some parts of their disorder but are fine with others that are more ingrained in their personality and how they think. They take offense to people who assume they are suffering in their condition and need to be fixed right now, but they want science to find ways to help people with severe autism better function and stuff.

[(Anonymous)]

Austistics who think they aren't suffering are ignoring just how badly their condition affects others. They are the ones that need a cure the most.

[(Anonymous)]

Autistics who think they're not suffering...maybe just aren't suffering. Please don't start this disgusting "you need to go away because you're a burden on the rest of us bullshit."

Autistic people who are able to function in daily life, and hold jobs on their own and stuff don't need to be cured. If they want it that's fine.

The ones who need it the most are the ones who can't speak because of it.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

There's a difference between functioning and enjoying life though. And someone who is lacking something may very well not have the ability to recognize that they're lacking it.

For example, I think it'd be pretty heinous if, say, a cure is found for deafness that MUST be administered in utero and deaf parents refuse to allow it. They're basically denying their child the ability to hear for nothing.

I can't see that as anything but wrong on their part.

[(Anonymous)]

Autistic people who are able to function and aren't a constant shrieking life-ruining burden aren't who we're talking about, so cool your shit.

[kallanda_lee]

As someone who dated someone with high-functioning autism...that is not always the case. I wasn't "negatively affected" by it. His thinking was just...different a bit, but in a way actually quite liberating.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, great. But your experience is no more definitive than the brother whose family was torn apart by the 'same' condition. Because, surprise, individuals vary.

[(Anonymous)]

My daughter's autism was never the hardship to me like the rest of my life has been. I don't need your sympathy.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay. I'll reallocate your share of the sympathy to a different parent of autistic children.

[(Anonymous)]

DA - Schizophrenia. I don't know anyone with it that enjoys having it and wouldn't be cured in a heartbeat.

[(Anonymous)]

yeah, schizo affective, bipolar, borderline, depression, I don't know anyone who enjoys or prefers having to deal with that kind of mental illness

[(Anonymous)]

That does sound like a good future; but since we aren't there yet, we only have the genetic testing, and people have zero clue how epigenetics figures in to whatever "positive" result they may have gotten (i.e. no positive result can tell you exactly how the disorder will manifest itself and/or be mitigated), there are a lot of people choosing abortion right now. Which, I'm of two minds about: on the one hands, if they can't handle even the idea of a kid with disabilities, they likely won't be the greatest parents in the first place. On the other hand, the kid might end up only being a carrier, and not even disabled at all.

Lot of grey areas yet IMO.

[diet_poison]

that honestly grosses me out.

Like. I can't form a really good argument why it shouldn't be allowed if abortion is allowed and people shouldn't have to justify it legally. But on a really personal level aborting kids because they are disabled just makes me angry. It's an emotional response.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm disabled, agonised for years about whether I could have children. It severely impacts on my life. Finally decided to have one, knowing that I could have a disabled child. But I got the test for Downs, knowing I'd abort if so. My child is healthy after intensive care start, I am thankful every day, and hopeful he'll grow up healthy and my physical pain will lessen because I can rest more when he's older. I don't feel guilty about that. I do feel incredibly angry about the Australian couple who abandoned their born, existing, Down syndrome baby in Thailand. There's a moral distinction.

Eugenics, however, is pretty scary shit.

[(Anonymous)]

* healthy probably a loaded word, but I don't consider my disability makes me healthy, so eh. It might for others.

[kallanda_lee]

See, I think that future would be great...but, in the end, I still feel we'd go the wrong way if people felt they would HAVE to be treated, and I'm sort of wary about "eradicating" certain things, especially with genetic basis, because you never know what you're eradicating.

Case in point: sickle cell disease. Bad at first glance, useful in some contexts.

[(Anonymous)]

Good God this.

I'm an autistic who's tired of being told I need to be "cured" because I'm supposedly a burden on other people and told that I'm being "selfish" by other people for feeling this way. .

[kallanda_lee]

You be you, anon. If you're happy as you are, then that's what matters.

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you. That means a lot to me.

[(Anonymous)]

Eradicating all the things would also be eradicating agency, IMO. Which is a big no in most parts of the world. Hopefully it stays that way.

[(Anonymous)]

Agency is overrated in some areas.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay. I think some aspect of you is causing you suffering. I even have a bunch of people who agree with me , one is a scientist!

Agency is overrated and I think this trait is hurting you and burdening others. I'm just going to fix you now. Okay? Cool.

[kallanda_lee]

That statement is scary on so many levels.