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⌈ Secret Post #3196 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

Health At Every Size is bullshit. You cannot be 300 lb and healthy any more than you can be 60 lb and healthy.

Yes, the BMI is not 100% reliable frequently misapplied and misused. Yes, there is a social stigma against being overweight. Yes, women's bodies are held to ridiculous standards. Yes, it is possible for fat people to have medical conditions unrelated to being fat,

BUT YOU CANNOT WEIGH OVER 300 POUNDS AND STILL BE HEALTHY.

And there's no such thing as "thin privilege".

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

For a time I thought Health At Every Size was about trying to aim to be healthier no matter what your size was. Eating right even if you eat a lot or working out even if your mobility is limited...

I was wrong, but wouldn't it have been nice if I were right?

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

I think things get confused, because this is definitely the version I've heard. Like, body positivity in general. You're trying to eat less and move around more, and maybe it won't be as quick for you as someone else and you're inclined to be rounder for longer, but you've made positive changes.

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, tumblr really falls down on the job when it comes to reminding fat people that they're fat and unhealthy. They'd probably forget if it weren't for selfless crusaders like you!

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

Everyone needs to feel shitty all the time, okay? And our society wouldn't be able to get to such fantastic levels of general alienation and depression if it wasn't for the tireless efforts of volunteers like AYRT.

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

Hallelujah for the original anon! I'm short and weigh 180 lbs, I get regular exercise and eat a moderate diet high in vegetables and lean proteins with a limited carb intake and even more limited sugar intake. My bloodwork is good and my doctor tells me I'm doing a great job and keep up the good work.

But sometimes I forget to be more humble about my horrible fat, the way a fat person ought to be. Fortunately for uppity fatties like me, there are people like the original anon to let me know that I'm not allowed to pretend I'm healthy because I've got wobbly saddlebags and a paunch. Shame on me for trying to get away with such a dirty, filthy trick that obviously hurts other people in the fee-fees.

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I think that's great. I really truly do. Good on you for being healthy regardless of size.

The problem with HAES though is that it should be about people like you and it isn't. You never see it discuss diet - nutritional diet, not weightloss diet - or exercising or bloodwork or any of those things.

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Thanks for skewering what I said into something completely different, I really appreciate that.

I do not go out of my way to harass fat people, nor do I participate in any inane "crusade" against body postivity.

What I object to is these so-called "activists" spreading misinformation about medical issues and the way the human body works. These are the same people who believe that once you're fat you will be fat forever and nothing you do can ever change that.

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

"I do not go out of my way to harass fat people, nor do I participate in any inane "crusade" against body postivity."

Wow, you don't? That's amazing. Hold on a sec, I'm sure I have your medal for being Awesome on the Internet somewhere around here...

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

Yup! I've seen those HAES idiots go on about how a 200 pound child is completely normal!

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

Yikes.

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

Those people just go on about that because they don't want to put the effort into losing weight*. If they actual buckled down and dropped weight, they would be amazed by the changes in their life.

*excluding the tiny % of people with actual disorders that prevent them from losing weight

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

[kitelovesyou]

What changes though, apart from social approval?

I lost a lot of weight recently from illness and pregnancy, and all I got was a bunch of social approval, an absence of social disapproval, and a sudden ability to fit into an arbitrary "mainstream" size range. That feels pretty good, not gonna lie, but it has nothing to do with my health or personal feelings of attractiveness as an older lesbian woman, and everything to do with conforming to social attitudes.

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

[kaijinscendre]

I've lost 70 pounds recently and my health has improved greatly. I can do things like: walk up a long flight of stairs without getting out of breath, squat for longer than a couple seconds without my knees feeling like shit, I can fit in between tight spaces, I can lift more at work, I am less stressed, I eat less so save money, my blood pressure has gone down, I have more energy, and that isn't even including all the long term benefits studies have found.

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, the HAES movement can be proven as bullshit by the sheer existence of anorexics.

You cannot be anorexic and healthy. You just can't. And pretending otherwise is going to get people killed.

Morbid obesity is the other side of the same coin.

The sad thing about society is that morbidly obese people get ridicule and scorn instead of compassion and help.

+1000000000000000000000

[(Anonymous)]

The HAES fat activist wackos are no different from the pro-anorexia thinspiration wackos.

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

[kitelovesyou]

Could you clarify how anorexia disproves HAES philosophy? I suppose you mean "at every size", which is more catchphrase than literal truth. If there are advocates actually saying that a 29kg average height woman is healthy, then that's pretty stupid, but I suspect it's more saying that a very thin cis woman (who can still menstruate) could potentially be healthy and not "eat a sandwich!" wasting away.

I used to live with an anorexic woman, who is now dead. Her existence did not prove as bullshit in any way the fact that women who lived with her were healthy and fat.

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

Because saying you can be healthy at every size IS bullshit.

You can be overweight and healthy.

In fact, at older ages, I've read some studies that suggest a bit of extra weight is actually BENEFICIAL because it gives your body a reserve to draw on.

But extremes are bad. In either direction.

There is a point where you are, quite simply, too skinny to be healthy and this point exists for everyone though it varies among individuals.

The same is true for obesity.

Some people can carry extra weight and be healthy whereas others cannot. But, at a certain point, EVERYONE will reach a point where they are unhealthily overweight.

Extremes are bad. Too little vitamin A will kill you but so will too much.

That's why the idea of HAES is bullshit.

It should be "Healthy at MANY sizes" -- Many, but not all, sizes are and can be healthy depending on the individual

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

I like how everyone responding to this thread ignored the part where OP said "You cannot be 300 lb and healthy any more than you can be 60 lb and healthy."

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

[kitelovesyou]

I dunno pounds! Though I just put 60 lbs through a converter and it came out close to 29kg which was a very bad weight for height for my anorexic housemate (I think she got committed whenever it went under 29).

That means 300lbs is 136kg, which is really NOT morbidly obese for most heights, wtf.

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

If you're under 6'1, 300 lbs is morbidly obese. Technically speaking.

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

Wow, 300 lbs isn't morbidly obese now? What is?

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

I do think thin privilege is probably a thing, just not to the extremes that certain activists like to take it. And "Healthy At Every Size" has a good idea at its core - it's okay to be naturally bigger and curvier, it's okay to be naturally skinny, you should find YOUR body's ideal healthy size - all of that. But it doesn't mean that obesity is healthy for anybody, and some people use body positivity as an excuse to not work on their health. Loving your body is a great message, especially for women, but if you love something you should also take good care of it in a way that makes you feel good.

On the OTHER hand, I don't think it's okay to talk shit about obese people either. People can be genuinely nasty about fat people in a way that they aren't about thin people, even unhealthily thin people. And if you're not a doctor or a very close trusted friend*, it's not your place to comment on their weight.

*I say this VERY cautiously, I don't think it's appropriate in 99% of cases. But if my best friend had an ED, I wouldn't be able to just ignore it, and I think the same would reasonably be true if they were morbidly obese.

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

And there's no such thing as "thin privilege".

Oh, right. Because the fact that fat people have a harder time getting employed, are more likely to be convicted of a crime (because fat=lazy/selfish/poor impulse control), and are more likely to have medical professionals ignore other symptoms in favour of telling them to diet (sometimes resulting in minor medical issues becoming major ones, or even fatal ones)... none of that translates to "thin privilege" for you, does it?

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, seems like most people missed that BS part of the original comment. I'm 5ft 7 in and weigh 130lbs. My roommate is about the same height, but 50 lbs. heavier. Neither of us are particularly athletic, but guess which one of us has never, ever gotten a lecture from a stranger about eating habits? That'd be me. Because I'm not overweight. If I were, there are people out there who'd think it their moral duty to tell me I should have a salad instead of a steak.