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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

This is just wrong. There are occupations where you cannot be fat and do your job. And "calories in, calories out" is SUCH a dangerous method to just spout like it's nothing. It's how you end with teenagers eating 600 calories a day and trying to exercise like it's their job. When that doesn't fucking work and can be deadly.

[(Anonymous)]

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I mean, I get what you're saying with the first two sentences, but how is it dangerous? If anything, I'd say it's safer than throwing out random "diets" that don't do shit, and, IMO, would be more likely to cause an eating disorder.

[kallanda_lee]

Are you serious? 600 calories is not even enough to have your brain functioning well. You'd need at least 1000-1200 (depends on your build and activity level)

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, I was being serious. I wasn't sure how the anon went from CICO directly to 600 calories, which isn't healthy for anyone, I'm aware.

I mostly see people eating ~600 calories when it's part of a fad diet/eating disorders ("only eat fruit!" "drink these special shakes instead of eating!", "I can only eat a handful of grapes, any more and I've failed" etc.), not when it comes to calorie counting.

[thistlechaser]

Just FYI: I was on a medically supervised diet for a year. It wasn't until the last two months that I went over 600 calories in a day. I spent a couple months at 400/day, then many months at 600/day. In the last two months of the year I went up to 1,000/day. At the end of the year, I was at (and try to stay at) about 1,200 per day.

It wasn't some unique-to-me diet, a number of people do the same for a year (with doctor and nutritionist supervision).

It's not fun in the least, but my brain still worked and I functioned just fine. You get used to it, my energy wasn't even low or anything like that.

[kallanda_lee]

Ma I ask what warranted such a drastic diet?

[thistlechaser]

Part of the gastric bypass process. Not fun at all, but effective.

[(Anonymous)]

Nice trolling, but it works on everyone. Being an idiot and taking the whole thing to an unhealthy extreme has nothing to do with CICO.

[(Anonymous)]

It works on everyone who doesn't have underlying medical issues that keep it from working -- issues they might not even know about.

[ill_omened]

I mean, it works on them too, it's just the damage outweighs the benefit there.

Though lets be honest, you for all intents and purposes effectively don't see these conditions existing outside the west. Not may Koreans, Chinese, or Japanese afflicted. Must be their superior genes right.

[(Anonymous)]

*tips fedora*

[(Anonymous)]

Fat leg beard detected

What color did you choose to dye your hair to draw attention away from your three chins?

[chardmonster]

...yeah south america and africa ain't real

what's an india

[ill_omened]

Yeah those too, not many fat dalit.

The change to Mexican diet with requisite explosion in obesity is also a useful demonstration of this my historian friend.

[(Anonymous)]

It works on everyone. No matter what your medical issues are, you will lose weight if you decrease your intake.

[(Anonymous)]

Lie. If you decrease it too much, you will maintain -- OR GAIN -- as your body tries to keep you safe on minimal food. It's irresponsible to say "If you cut intake you'll lose weight!" without at the very least adding the words "a sensible amount" to your comment.

[(Anonymous)]

Starvation mode is a myth. Of course crash diets aren't healthy and they shouldn't be tried by anyone, but they still make you lose weight.

[(Anonymous)]

> Starvation mode

That's why there all those fat people in the concentration camps, right?

[(Anonymous)]

Untrue. I got really sick for a few months and had trouble eating much of anything and keeping it down. I ended up losing nearly 30 pounds as a result.

[(Anonymous)]

Weight yes, fat no. Your body is going to eat something, but if medical conditions keep you from burning fat then there's lots of important tissues it can devour instead. Fun!

[(Anonymous)]

What medical conditions would these be and what tissues would they use instead of fat?

[(Anonymous)]

Or you just happen to not be fat for various other reasons involving the job. But yeah not to dig at the original post, but I'm not a fan of the phrase "calories in, calories out" either. The people I hear saying that eat very unhealthily and do extreme forms of dieting that are not improving their health in any way shape or form.

[(Anonymous)]

I've seen CICO mentioned a lot on My Fitness Pal, and in my experience, the forums there tend to take a very dim view of anyone spouting off on cleanses, or fad diets like HCG, or really any diets with extreme restrictions. The prevailing mood seems strongly geared towards diet AND exercise.

Doesn't mean there isn't a regular influx of newbies asking about the Master Cleanse, etc., but CICO has been a good benchmark for me to get a handle on my eating and bring it closer to what I actually need vs. the lots of chocolate cake that I want on a daily basis. :)

[(Anonymous)]

CICO is the basic motto of Weight Watchers, AFAIK. I know numerous people who have safely (and healthily) lost considerable amounts of weight on WW and kept it off.

[iceyred]

Lol at you trying to blame people who don't research healthy eating on advice to get healthy. Good job.