[ SECRET POST #3521 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3521 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[World of Warcraft: Legion]


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(Fallout 4)


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[Doctor Who - 12/Clara]


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(The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy)


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06.
[Bojack Horseman]


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[Criminal Minds]


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[Elite: Dangerous]


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[Street Fighter]












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Comments

Worst positive headcanons/interpretations of characters you love

[(Anonymous)]

So, everyone knows it's shitty when some fan takes a character you love and comes up with nasty headcanons about them, or interprets them in the most unfairly negative light possible.

But how about when a fan who also loves the character comes up with positive headcanons or interpretations of them out of affection for them...but the so-called "positive" interpretation is OOC, cringey, creepy, eye-rolling, annoying, or otherwise undercuts or diminishes the character, so regardless of how "positive" the fan's intent was, their headcanon annoys you just as much - if not more - than other fans' negative headcanons?

Re: Worst positive headcanons/interpretations of characters you love

[(Anonymous)]

I saw a video with some girl trying to justify how Mercy was responsible for every bad thing that ever happened in the Overwatch universe. It was batshit.

Re: Worst positive headcanons/interpretations of characters you love

[(Anonymous)]

Definitely hate the headcanons that excuse Kylo's actions by bashing Leia and Han as bad parents. Not perfect, sure, but you can't deny that Leia loves her son and would have done her best. I really like Kylo but nope.

Re: Worst positive headcanons/interpretations of characters you love

[morieris]

THIS SO MUCH.

I'm not averse to the 'young adults end up not perfect parents' thing (people were really salty about that for Aang, but he was excited that there was ONE more airbender beside him), but you cannot tell me that Han and Leia were such bad parents that their son would be pushed to the dark side more than groomed by a malevolent force. No fucking way.

Re: Worst positive headcanons/interpretations of characters you love

[philstar22]

Yes.

Steven Universe

[feotakahari]

Garnet as "two small lesbians in a trench coat." The show puts a lot of effort into developing fusions as characters separate from the sum of their parts (Sardonyx is not Pearl or Garnet, Sugilite is not Garnet or Amethyst, etc.), so it's always annoying to see Garnet ignored as a character in her own right in favor of attributing her actions and motivations to Ruby and/or Sapphire. Thankfully, that seemed to die down a lot by season three.

Re: Steven Universe

[greenvelvetcake]

Going on a tangent, I wish they'd done that with Malachite - I'd hoped that when Lapis was exhausted, it wasn't Jasper who took the reins, but Malachite herself. Oh well.

Re: Worst positive headcanons/interpretations of characters you love

[(Anonymous)]

A lot of the treatment Tony Stark gets on tumblr veers this way. Is he a terrible soulless sex-guzzling capitalist Nazi? No, and it's boring when people assume he is. But it's almost worse when people act like he's a super snuggly, deeply thoughtful team dad/blushing rose/.

Re: Worst positive headcanons/interpretations of characters you love

[(Anonymous)]

Gyah. Tony is deeply, deeply flawed, and that's why I love him so much. The idea that someone as immature as him is seen as the "team dad" is just so wrong on so many levels. Unless the team dad is supposed to be a booze-guzzling womanizer with no impulse control and the attention span of a gerbil on crack...

Re: Worst positive headcanons/interpretations of characters you love

[(Anonymous)]

Idk if it counts as a headcanon but I kind of hate any fanfic with Enjolras being a parent. And it doesn't stem from a hate of kidfic (cause kidfic can be okay if done well), it just stems from the fact that I cannot view him as being a good parent, or even wanting to be, no matter what kind of AU he's in. Honestly, idk whats wrong with having childless couples in domestic fic. Not everyone wants kids.

Re: Worst positive headcanons/interpretations of characters you love

[(Anonymous)]

omg i'm not even in the fandom but that sounds terrible

i can think of few characters less suited to parenthood

Re: Worst positive headcanons/interpretations of characters you love

[(Anonymous)]

people who portray cas as being this harmless guy who's super into bees and fluffy kittens and is generally just a big ol' "cinnamon roll" (I hate the cinnamon roll thing in general though).


c'mon, man...

Re: Worst positive headcanons/interpretations of characters you love

[(Anonymous)]

season 4!multidimensional-wavelength-of-celestial-intent!Cas ftw

Re: Worst positive headcanons/interpretations of characters you love

[(Anonymous)]

There was a headcanon I once saw that theorized that Elrond took advantage of the sympathy for Celebrimbor's death to decorate the great hall in Rivendell with Feanorian stars ~out of love for Maglor and in hopes that Maglor would return to him~

Like

wow

no

nooooononononononono

fuck no

Not only is it utterly despicable to decorate a place meant to be a hospitable and welcoming refuge for all regardless of race or class - including the Sindarin and Gondolin elves whose families were destroyed by the Feanorians - with so unwelcoming a piece of decor

Not only is it utterly OOC for someone like Elrond, who is reserved and gentle and thoughtful and mature and wise and *incredibly* private about his issues and emotions, to so shallowly, disrespectfully, cringily, and ostentatiously plaster his incredibly private sorrow and love for Maglor in front of everyone's face like that, especially when it makes no sense given that it was the individual person, not the House of Feanor, he loved

But it is not even sweet or heartwarming or poignant in terms of the Maglor-Elrond relationship. The idea of Elrond being still so hung up on Maglor and his perspective on Maglor still being so stunted and myopic, 1,700 years later, that he would exploit Celebrimbor's death just to stroke his own impulses is nothing but pathetic and icky and severely diminishes the nuance and beauty of the relationship.

Re: Worst positive headcanons/interpretations of characters you love

[(Anonymous)]

Ick. I've never liked the idea of Elrond viewing Maglor as a dad (or worse as his real dad since Earendil isn't good enough) but I'm finding that the fans who like Maglor-as-Elrond's-dad headcanon are turning me off of any Maglor and Elrond relationship.

It smacks of the same Feanorian apologizism that excuses the Feanorians of the First Kinslaying.

Re: Worst positive headcanons/interpretations of characters you love

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

Ehhh yeah, I agree with you on a lot of that.

I admit, I happen to be very fond of Maedhros and Maglor, but a lot of shit happened around them and Elrond would be sensible enough not to flaunt his connection to them where people who might object will see it.
Frankly, if he decorated Rivendell with stars, I would think they were not Fëanorian stars, but a style of star less specific to any given family, just for the sake of having stars around in the decorations. Keep in mind, Elrond's own name implies stars in the "El-" part.

My real expectation of Elrond's attitude about Maglor, if cast in a caring light, is that in the Second and Third Ages is that he mostly keeps quiet about it, removes himself from discussions where people are being particularly antagonistic about it, and only speaks kind words about him to people he knows and trusts will be sympathetic about the situation of his youth.

Re: Worst positive headcanons/interpretations of characters you love

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, while I don't believe the star would be as reviled as, say, the Confederate flag, in middle earth, it's one thing for Celebrimbor to put the star on the gates of Moria as a symbol of his house's friendship with the dwarves, it's quite another to put it in front of elves who come to Rivendell seeking and expecting hospitality and peace and relief from their troubles and fears. Rivendell is not like Lothlorien or Lindon or Eregion, dedicated to its inhabitants first and guests second. It ought to be, and by all accounts is, a place tailored to its guests' needs, not its lord's personal issues. And anyway, if Elrond wanted to honor and remember Maglor, I seriously doubt the Star (a symbol of Feanor's house in general, and a symbol of Maglor's downfall) would be what he would go for. More likely a reproduction of Maglor's harp or something personal like that.

Re: Worst positive headcanons/interpretations of characters you love

[(Anonymous)]

A lot of my favorite characters are the meek, timid type, and it's always popular to headcanon them as ACTUALLY being some amazing force of power that can make everyone bow down to them under the right condition. Especially if the condition is being in a relationship with them... and most especially if the character is female and the relationship is het.

No, stop. I like those characters because they're like me, and I'm not secretly a badass bitch. A character doesn't need to have a hidden powerful side to be interesting. That's already cliche enough in canon things in this day and age.

Re: Worst positive headcanons/interpretations of characters you love

[philstar22]

Any interpretation that makes Melkor or Sauron out to not be the awful people they are. I haven't seen too many such interpretations, but I have seen a few. Showing positive sides to villains is one thing, but making them out to not actually be villains bothers me. I like these two because they are villains.

I especially hate interpretations that say that Melkor was abusive and therefore that's why Sauron did the things he did. Nope.

Also any interpretation of Feanorians that justifies any of the kinslayings. Nope. Not okay. The Feanorians are complicated, but they have done awful things.

I think that interpretations that give too much credit to Celebrimbor also bug me a little. Yes, he was tricked. But Galadriel and Gil-Galad saw right through Annatar. So Celebrimbor isn't perfect. He's not outright evil like most of his family. He didn't willingly join Sauron. He did sacrifice himself in the end. But he made mistakes.

Re: Worst positive headcanons/interpretations of characters you love

[(Anonymous)]

I especially hate interpretations that say that Melkor was abusive and therefore that's why Sauron did the things he did.

Uggghhh this. I don't mind the idea of Melkor being abusive, but the idea that all the stuff Sauron did is because of Melkor's abuse is not only an incredibly lame excuse, it is just so....boring.

Re: Worst positive headcanons/interpretations of characters you love

[(Anonymous)]

So I know nobody watches OUAT anymore (I don't, still in the fandom though) but between seasons 1 and 2 there was a Facebook game. It involved written letters from the characters to each other. And one of the letters was from Rumplestiltskin to Belle. Canon had them as Beauty and the Beast, but he didn't want his curse broken, since he needed the power for his own purposes. So she meant well when she tried to break his curse, but he didn't take it well, and kicked her out. Later, he's told she was tortured to death for associating with him.

So, the letter. It was written as though he was very drunk and very maudlin, in mourning, blaming Belle for stealing and breaking his heart, and ended with "I wish you were dea--"

So many fans were so pissed, and complained so much, that the letter was pulled and replaced by a smoopy love letter. I love them as a couple and I thought the second letter was cute, but I freaking loved the first letter. Because that kind of self loathing self destructive bent was the difference between Once Upon a Time's Beast and Disney's.

Re: Worst positive headcanons/interpretations of characters you love

[(Anonymous)]

This is a very, very small fandom, but Matt Murdock from Daredevil as the kind, nice, perfect guy. He's not extremely weepy and vulnerable. He doesn't need people to protect him because he's blind. I love the dark ferocity of his character and hate to see him reduced to just being a sort of nice guy.

Re: Worst positive headcanons/interpretations of characters you love

[(Anonymous)]

Every time this comes up the character I think of most strongly is Ezra from the TV Magnificent Seven, probably because it was the first time I really came across it. M7 fandom was weird when it came to Ezra. In hindsight, probably not any more weird than any other fandom with a favourite roguish woobie, but I think he was my first. Particularly the racism thing with Nathan, and also Ezra's greed. So many fics bent over backwards to explain those two things away as anything other than the fairly natural results of a man raised in the pre-war South to be a thief and a conman by a mother who seemed to prize material security above all things. The best thing about Ezra in the show was watching him learn to overcome that and let his natural brave and honourable streak shine through, struggling all the way. With, I should add, Nathan's help in a lot of ways, and usually when they blew up at each other you could see why the situation would lend itself to it. So many fics demonised Nathan to excuse Ezra as well.

Ezra in the show was a thief and a swindler who almost left a village to die in the pilot and who was blatantly racist towards Nathan in their first encounter. He was also a deeply honourable man who didn't want to be because a) he hadn't been raised that way, and b) honour in his circumstances had a tendency to get him shot at and/or arrested, and who gradually let his better self shine through over the course of the show. His character development was one of the best in the show, and it really, really annoyed me after a while how often it was swept under the rug in fic in favour of having him be a tortured innocent cruelly disregarded for his past.

Erm. Yes. Rant over. He was just my first fandom favourite woobie, I think. It stuck.

Re: Worst positive headcanons/interpretations of characters you love

[diet_poison]

Transguy Rainbow Dash is all I can think of at the moment.

Re: Worst positive headcanons/interpretations of characters you love

[caerbannog]

Anytime someone describes Emily kaldwin as weak, pampered, figurehead.