[ SECRET POST #3994 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3994 ⌋

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What killed crossover fandoms (ie. Superwholock)?

[(Anonymous)]

I was reading an article that suggested that Dashcon killed Superwholock. I missed Superwholock, but I know it had a huge presence at one point on tumblr and it didn't exactly have a good reputation outside the group. Sherlock especially seemed to experience a pretty massive popularity drop after season 3, roughly around the time backlash hit Benedict Cumberbatch and/or Moffat.

It is true, though, that huge crossover fandoms like SWL and that Brave/How To Train Your Dragon/Rise of the Guardians/Tangled crossover seem to have more-or-less died off.

What happened to them? Did everyone age out of them or did they collapse under their own weight?

Re: What killed crossover fandoms (ie. Superwholock)?

[(Anonymous)]

I doubt dashcon killed megafandoms. My theory is that abrasive, moralistic nature and the "stay in your lane" mindset of fandom right now is not conductive to fanworks so there's less silly fun stuff being made.

Re: What killed crossover fandoms (ie. Superwholock)?

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, with Superwholock specifically, I suspect that the answer has a huge amount to do with the Stephen Moffat backlash and Sherlock's later seasons being bad.

I don't really know about crossover fandoms more generally. I guess a lot of the fandoms that have become popular recently don't lend themselves so easily to crossovers? IDK.

Re: What killed crossover fandoms (ie. Superwholock)?

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know and I don't care, I hated them. I'm so glad to be finally rid of RotBFTD!

Re: What killed crossover fandoms (ie. Superwholock)?

[fishnchips]

Dashcon wasn't a nearly big enough event to "kill" some very popular fandom mashups, imo.
Personally, I think these things collapsed for several reasons. Once the whole "omg let's all fock to this new thing it's awesome" sense had worn off, a lot of people got bored with it. Then there's people moving on to new fandoms - and even if it's just partially (like for example moving on from Supernatural but not Sherlock), it still kills the whole mashup thing. Given the fact that a lot of the fandoms involved in those mashups where classic cases of "migratory (slash) fandoms" and in the case of Doctor Who, there tends to be a big divide between Doctor incarnation preferences, this probably happened a lot.

And one of the main reasons is probably that each one of those fandoms usually involved in the huge crossovers are very drama- and lately, discourse/wank-prone fandoms. So things probably imploded due to infighting and calling each other out and accusing each other of being problematic in various ways.

Re: What killed crossover fandoms (ie. Superwholock)?

[(Anonymous)]

I was just thinking that. Rise Of The Brave Tangled Dragons and Superwholock were annoying, but they were at least creative.

The current obsession with canon pairing canon shipping what do the creators ship super-canon is just as annoying, and sad and obnoxious to boot.

Re: What killed crossover fandoms (ie. Superwholock)?

[greghousesgf]

I still like crossovers

Re: What killed crossover fandoms (ie. Superwholock)?

[(Anonymous)]

are they dead? good.

I'm sure there are a bajillion factors. Fanbase maybe not so much aging as changing tastes, the weird purity culture on tumblr, the lack of actual source material to create and sustain new crossovers, the general fandom backlash to the mere existence of such phenomenon, etc.

I mean, what movies/shows have come out recently that still would mesh with each other in a way where relating them to one another wouldn't be a massive stretch? The animated movie one was because most of those films were aesthetically similar enough to inspire one "what if they took place in the same universe" blog and boom, crossover born. What has recently come out with that kind of cross-fandom chemistry?

Re: What killed crossover fandoms (ie. Superwholock)?

[(Anonymous)]

are they really dead? i thought the trend of carrying over pairings when a popular actor switches shows (and polluting the new show's tags with unrelated shipping shit from whatever other show they were in) was still very much in place?

Re: What killed crossover fandoms (ie. Superwholock)?

[takaraikarin]

I'm not sure it's dead. Fandom goes through phases where certain tropes get popular and then it plateaus out, rinse and repeat.

Of course if the fandom isn't as active anymore (I don't think Sherlock is?), that'll impact fandom creations as well.

Re: What killed crossover fandoms (ie. Superwholock)?

[nightscale]

I can't imagine it's completely dead, not that I saw much of it anyway, even when it was at it's height. But I imagine that it's decrease in activity is due to at least Sherlock having very little output and a terribly received 3rd and 4th seasons that put people off that side of things, Dr Who changing actors and some people getting bored with Spn.

That and the natural ebb and flow of fandom easing it out over time.

Re: What killed crossover fandoms (ie. Superwholock)?

[(Anonymous)]

Nothing stays consistently popular forever. It's probably mostly down to a lot of people becoming less interested in at least one of those fandoms or just becoming less interested in crossing them over.

Crack is fun, but crack-ish fandom things tend to be fads that come and go faster than most fandoms as a whole. You need more substance to maintain something over longer periods of time.

I still see both Supernatural and Doctor Who pop up in Sherlock fics on AO3, so I wouldn't say this is completely dead. Maybe it's just the silly fan art and gif posts on tumblr that are dead, but I rarely look at tumblr so I don't know.

Re: What killed crossover fandoms (ie. Superwholock)?

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Well, the popular and pretty Doctor regenerated twice and production there has been sluggish. Sherlock had one great season before it started floundering. SPN is always SPN and bless their hearts.

I suspect that the return of mega-franchises is stealing some crossover thunder: Marvel, DC, Star Wars, and Star Trek are all putting out new material right now.

How messy is too messy for you?

[(Anonymous)]

Considering living situations.

Re: How messy is too messy for you?

[(Anonymous)]

Way messier than should be considered healthy, tbh. I’m a goddamned slob. And I’m married to one too. It gets bad lmao.

Fortunately we both have occasional bursts of anxiety that make us go into cleaning overdrive, so it never gets to like dangerous levels.

Re: How messy is too messy for you?

[kaijinscendre]

I like my area to be fairly clean and neat. I clean at least once a week and hate clutter.

Re: How messy is too messy for you?

[(Anonymous)]

I have a pretty high tolerance. As long as there's nothing that attracts pests and I can move around, I'm good.

Should I get up from my nap or continue to nap the day away?

[(Anonymous)]

How do you feel about naps? Do you like them? How long is your perfect nap?

CROSSOVERS!

[(Anonymous)]

What are your favorite crossover works or fandoms? Are there any crossover works that you've not seen that you want to?

We are still discussing Edge of Tomorrow!

[kaijinscendre]

Come join us!

What is your least favorite part of fandom?

[(Anonymous)]

^^^^^^^^^^

Rare/Small Pairings

[(Anonymous)]

After yesterday's NOTP thread, I'm wondering what rare/small pairings do people wish there was MORE of?

Venting

[(Anonymous)]

Let it all out

HIlarious thing(s) that you learned about a celebrity

[(Anonymous)]

I'm making this post solely and specifically because today I was browsing in a book about CS Lewis which talked about the letters he wrote to his friend Arthur Greeves when he (Lewis) was in college, and I learned that young!Lewis:

1) had a spanking kink

2) used to write to Greeves and tell him about it when he saw a girl he thought would be "ideal" for fun spanking times

3) once got extremely drunk at a college party (with exclusively male guests) and ran around offering to spank people for a shilling