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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-01-04 05:55 pm

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(Anonymous) 2018-01-04 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I really don't like facial hair either, but then again, I'm mostly lesbian and the guys I do like tend to look kind of feminine. Still. I get how a little scruff can be attractive, but a full beard? Especially a massive one? I've never seen that look good on anyone, at least, not to my taste.

But hey, guys should do what they like and makes them feel good about themselves, so whatever.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2018-01-04 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I get it, OP. I'm weird about body hair. Some facial hair I like. Like a nice gotee or a little bit of scruff. But a full beard or a whole lot of body hair turns me off.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-04 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a weird response. I didn't realize people thought a preference for bearded/hairy men was an age-related thing.

If that kind of look doesn't do anything for you, so be it. I tend to prefer clean-shaven men, too, and I'm in my early 30s, so... When it comes to guys' bodies I don't mind a little hair, though.

But anywho, yeah, like/don't like what you want.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-05 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
It's absolutely not. Whoever said that it is has no idea what they're talking about.

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(Anonymous) 2018-01-05 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
I've never heard anyone say facial hair is something you come to like with age, either.

Then again, some people act like relationships* happen because the universe just arbitrarily smooshes people together and you just magically come to like your partner - facial hair and all - and if you complain you're being too picky... as opposed to a choice on the part of both parties to get together with someone they actually want to be with. That could be what they mean: "Some day you will fall in love with a man with a beard and you won't mind beards so much!" I mean, it could happen, but it's not inevitable.

*Not their relationships - they got together for love, it was very romantic - but other people are supposed to just pair off like field trip buddies.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2018-01-05 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
I hear it in reference to specific characters all the time. People in the Tolkien fandom often say the young are attracted to Legolas, but adults are attracted to Aragorn. It was the exact opposite for me.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-05 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
It's because most of the male celeb heartthrobs tweens and teenagers fall for are hairless threatening young things. See Justin Bieber, NSYNC era Timberlake, Leif Garrett and David Cassidy as examples. Or think of the slash pairings younger people like. Do you think they're imagining Tom Selleck or Burt Reynolds type guys or the twinkiest men possible...

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[personal profile] soldatsasha 2018-01-05 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
People tend to be attracted to other people within their age range (skewing a little older or younger for some people). So, tweens and teens tend to be attracted to hairless boyband type guys, older women tend to be attracted to guys who are more clearly mature. And pretty much the clearest sign of maturity for guys is facial hair.

So there's a lot of people who thought beards or scruff was gross when they were 15 and no one their age could grow a beard. But then they grew up and hit sexual maturity and started thinking it was super hot.

I'm not into beards personally, though I really like stubble and scruff, but I totally get why people think "liking beards" is something age related.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-05 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
I think people sometimes associate hairiness with maturity, so maybe that's why they told you that. And older guys tend to wear it better, e.g. 41yo Colin Farrell looks way hotter with a beard than 26yo Colin Farrell did. But if you don't like it, you don't like it.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-05 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
I'm 28 and still not into beards!

(Anonymous) 2018-01-05 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Well, yeah. If I see women over 30 writing about guys only having a happy trail I assume they're either lesbian or asexual. Sorry, not sorry.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-05 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Wait... what?
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[personal profile] philstar22 2018-01-05 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Uh, body hair comes naturally on both men and women. Both men and women are capable of shaving. There is nothing in level of hair that tells you what your orientation is. Attracted to men is attracted to men.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-05 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
wh...

I'm 34, and my husband is naturally pretty hairless. No chest hair, pretty light happy trail, doesn't have a hairy ass. He does "maintain" his pubes, though, mostly 'cause he likes the way it looks-- but even if he goes rogue with it, there's still not that much. I'm sorry, but you're the one that sounds virginal if you don't think there's a ton of levels of hairiness among men. And women, for that matter! I'm way hairier than him!

Huh?

(Anonymous) 2018-01-05 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
Given the amount of waxed chests on male characters in my canons, I wouldn't even write a happy trail for most. And there are some men that don't seem to have much body hair naturally.

Re: Huh?

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(Anonymous) 2018-01-05 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe I'm broken then 'cause I'm pretty old and I only like dudes with minimal facial and body hair. Or maybe we just like what we like, OP.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-05 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
pretty sure that person/those people telling you that are morons, OP, but for the anecdotal record, 40's and still hate beards. Give me a little goatee or some stubble, that's fine, but the beard beard, nope.

I hate beards with a fucking passion. I hate gross smelly lumberjack beards almost as much as I hate Trump.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-05 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like a lot of people in our society tend to subtly belittle and condescend to women if their attraction is to traits that are deemed "less manly." So like, if you're attracted mainly to clean-shaven, fresh-faced pretty boys, that must be because you haven't yet matured into a full, womanly attraction towards burly macho men.

I think it's basically another facet of cultural fragile masculinity and the need to glorify "manliness." Having women who are more attracted to androgynous/pretty, boyish men challenges some people's gender paradigm, so they belittle it and make it out to be less than fully valid.

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(Anonymous) 2018-01-05 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
...I didn't know that this was a thing that's supposed to come with age? It sounds silly, you can't help what you like.

I'm 40 and I can't stand beards/mustaches/goatees. A little scruff is okay but no more than that. Thankfully my husband can't stand facial hair either, so he shaves at least every couple of days. I do like some body hair though, just not an overabundance of it. Chest hair is fine, just not bear skin rug levels of it.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-05 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe I can ask this here: I'm writing a fic about a male character (in a fandom that ritually shaves all their male chests) that has a shaved chest but a massive caveman beard. The problem is up-close on camera during the show you can see the actor's stubble on his chest in a couple of scenes and his arms are also shaved for whatever reason and you can see the stubble on the forearms, too. How do you write this? Do you just pretend he's smooth and hairless the way the rest of the fandom expects, or do you write that he shaves his chest and arms and deals with stubble? I'm seriously at a loss on how to deal with this.

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(Anonymous) 2018-01-05 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
Haha, I interestingly had the opposite problem of this-- I thought I was basically asexual and not really attracted to any sort of physical appearance until about 24 or so because that's about how long it took for my male peers to start growing/maintaining a good swath of facial hair. Now beards are a huge turn-on for me. Go figure!

(Anonymous) 2018-01-05 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
Can't say I've ever discussed this with anyone but I've always found facial hair attractive on guys. Sometimes a preference is just a preference!

(Anonymous) 2018-01-05 05:00 am (UTC)(link)
I’ve been told the same thing, OP. and while I don’t mind some men with facial hair, I still find chest hair totally repulsive 👍

(Anonymous) 2018-01-05 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
Meanwhile, seeing Hugh Jackman play Wolverine for the first time incited immediate puberty for me. Like the Hormone Monstress storming in to my room to shred my DiCaprio posters and set fire to my Barbies, "There's a whole WORLD of hairy manflesh out there, girl! Lumberjacks! Lobstermen! Clint Got-Damn Eastwood! GO!" Facial hair has a palpable power.

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