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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-06-08 06:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #4174 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4174 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Bates Motel]


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(The Scarlet Pimpernel 1999)


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[Star Fox Zero: The Battle Begins (Anime), Star Fox Zero (Game)]


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06. [WARNING for possible discussion of rape, etc.]



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07. [WARNING for possible discussion of rape/underage/bestiality/other stuff?]





















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(Anonymous) 2018-06-08 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, op, Shuri is. There's literally no reason to ship her with adults when Shuri isn't one herself.

(Anonymous) 2018-06-08 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Shuri isn't anything except insofar as she's depicted as being something in a work of fiction.

(Anonymous) 2018-06-08 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Shuri is only 16 if you saw that one tweet saying she was. Otherwise, there is NO reason to think she is.

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(Anonymous) 2018-06-08 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Lol. Someone tell this person about all the minor/adult ships and canon relationships.

(Anonymous) 2018-06-08 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
There are literally multiple reasons, starting with the fact that she's not real.
osidiano: Misawa Daichi from YGO!GX wincing and putting a hand to his head, with the text "My fandom BROKE MY BRAIN" (oof)

[personal profile] osidiano 2018-06-08 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Did I miss the memo where we needed reasons to ship? I guess I should check my inbox more often...

(Anonymous) 2018-06-09 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Shuri also isn't real so...

(Anonymous) 2018-06-09 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
"There's literally no reason to... "

Sure there is! And that reason is because people want to ship fictional characters however they want and it hurts nobody because yaaaay fiction.

(Anonymous) 2018-06-09 06:42 am (UTC)(link)
Nice attempt at fandom policing there! You don't like Shuri being shipped with older characters? Simple! DON'T FUCKING READ. She's a fictional character. She's there for people to project whatever they fucking want on her. Miss me with your gatekeeping and fake morality.

(Anonymous) 2018-06-08 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Imma add something I never see written - back when I was 16, if I dressed like that, I would have been PISSED if you didn't sexualize me.

I've worn dresses like that to family weddings. Wish you could see the stuff my generation wore to go clubbing.

(And yes, I am a perfectly normal woman, haven't been abused, it's not a result of past trauma, I don't even have sex that much. Many 16-year-olds like to look sexy. They don't mind if you find them sexy as long as you're silent and at a safe distance).

(Anonymous) 2018-06-09 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
They don't mind if you find them sexy as long as you're silent and at a safe distance

This. At 13 I looked the same way I do now (at 34). I dressed a LOT more provocatively at 16 than I do now for sure. I wanted people to think I was hot. I wanted them to look. Not touch, or comment creepily, but look. To find me attractive.

Also I love people saying, "NO ONE THOUGHT SHE WAS SIXTEEN UNTIL THEY SAW THAT TWEET!"

I saw no tweet, and yet when I watched the movie I pegged her character as a teen solely on the interactions with her brother/mother. She ACTED like a teen, even if she looked maybe a bit older, but maybe because I am used to teens upselling themselves as 20-somethings with makeup/etc?

(Anonymous) 2018-06-08 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
For me, it depends on how it's done, I guess.

I can hypothetically imagine someone sexualizing her in a way that relies on the fact that the character is supposed to be a teenager, and I can understand how someone might find that skeezy. but I'm also not really seeing the value in condemning someone for being into a 24-year-old.

(Anonymous) 2018-06-08 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I saw a post the other day where someone said it was wrong to see Shuri as older than 16 because we don't see Peter as older than that and it would be sexualising a black woman which felt... Kinda ridiculous to me, because Peter goes to high school and hangs out with high schoolers whereas Shuri hangs out with her brother's older friends and works in a lab all day so you can easily see her as older. Idk, this just reminded me of that. You do you, OP.

(Anonymous) 2018-06-08 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, people sexualize Peter....a lot. Like...wow.

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(Anonymous) 2018-06-08 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven’t shipped anything in the MCU unless being okay with but not enthusiastic about canon ships counts as shipping, and honestly I didn't see anything in Black Panther that made me think Shuri was 16. I assumed she was younger than T’Challa, but not a kid. I wouldn’t even assume she was a kid if she was spelled out as being 16, since she’s running an R&D lab, apparently by herself. I would’ve just assumed the age of majority/responsibility in Wakanda was 15 or 16.

(Anonymous) 2018-06-09 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
I'm totally confused why there's a controversy over Shuri at all. Literally any show set in high school has teen characters, and no one is up in arms about sexualizing them. Is it just because she's being shipped with a non-teen character?

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(Anonymous) 2018-06-09 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Your point might be better made if you weren't using a photo of her in what appears to be a prom dress.

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(Anonymous) 2018-06-09 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
People can ship what they wanna ship. But I do find it telling when they try and justify a controversial ship. Just accept you want to ship a teenager with an adult OP. Sheesh!

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(Anonymous) 2018-06-09 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
lmao, who cares? Write a 30-something banging a 16 year old. It's fine. It's literally just fiction.

(Anonymous) 2018-06-09 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
Have to agree with OP. There was nothing I picked up from what was actually on screen that made me think Shuri was a teenager. Obviously younger than T'challa, but she didn't track for me as a teen.

I hadn't read the source material that might make her age more explicit, but I was sure surprised at fandom's very loud "She's a teen; leave her alone!" stance.

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(Anonymous) 2018-06-09 06:41 am (UTC)(link)
Nice attempt at fandom policing there! You don't like Shuri being shipped with older characters? Simple! DON'T FUCKING READ. She's a fictional character. She's there for people to project whatever they fucking want on her. Miss me with your gatekeeping and fake morality.

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[personal profile] tree_and_leaf 2018-06-09 11:24 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, not this again.

(Anonymous) 2018-06-09 01:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't mind people saying they personally can't see her in a sexual situation because of her age, I don't even mind people saying those shipping her with an adult man is skeevy.

but the "don't sexualize a 16 year old," is a bit... of an odd sentiment. 16 year olds are sexual, by and large. they have sexual urges, feelings, they have a sexuality. many 16 year olds have sex. again, I get not wanting to see content where she's having sex, but the phrasing "sexualize" a teenager is so fucking off from reality where teenagers fuck that it's patently ridiculous and echoes the condescending tumblr mindset that you're a ~sweet innocent baby~ with big batting eyelashes until you turn 18, at which point you become a hypersexual predator.

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(Anonymous) 2018-06-09 01:57 pm (UTC)(link)
any adult writing a sexual scene with a teen (even a fake one) means that they are thinking about a teen (even a fake one) in a sexual way. to me it means they never fully matured mentally after high school and that's kind of sad, but also gross.

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