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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-03-24 03:11 pm

[ SECRET POST #4462 ]


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philstar22: (Default)

Re: Do you think SJW is useful as a term?

[personal profile] philstar22 2019-03-24 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Nope. At this point, it is used by certain people to describe anyone they don't like and to silence any discussion about discrimination. Maybe it once had a slightly useful role, though I think the people that would actually qualify for the strict meaning is very small. But now it has been too overused and too widely used to have any meaning.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-24 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
As someone who's not super into the show or pays any attention to Sugar herself, I'm curious what obvious fetishes she has that has made its way into the show?

(Anonymous) 2019-03-24 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I would love to know this, too. Like are we talking actual fetishes or certain aesthetics or what?

(Anonymous) 2019-03-24 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
whoah, no kidding!

Re: Do you think SJW is useful as a term?

(Anonymous) 2019-03-24 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but only in certain contexts where people are coming from a similiar place of understanding. While social justice on the whole is good, there's definitely the type of person who uses social justice as a means to look good instead of doing good and ignores the negative ramifications of

(Anonymous) 2019-03-24 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Nobody has. It comes out in May.

Re: Do you think SJW is useful as a term?

(Anonymous) 2019-03-24 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
that.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-24 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I would have 100% believed anyone who told me that they are the same, just the one on the left is from a modern reboot or something.

Hell, it took me looking at it 3 times to figure out both images on the left were from one show and both images on the right were from another.

Re: Ships you love with a fandom you hate

(Anonymous) 2019-03-24 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
All my Star Wars ships. Not even mentioning them here, except Sinjir/Conder cause I refuse to believe that there are people who hate them (... there probably are. Just not here.)


(Anonymous) 2019-03-24 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly this is super true. Every animated show is full of its animators fetishes and that’s just the facts

(Anonymous) 2019-03-24 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
OH. Lol, I totally though it had been out for months already.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-24 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Urgh, TRC and xxxHolic both started good and then got amazing over time and THEN they just fizzled out in an explosion of nonsense. Makes me mad just thinking about it.

Re: Do you think SJW is useful as a term?

(Anonymous) 2019-03-24 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the term is highly dependent on context. Some people call themselves that, which I think is fine.

What's interesting to me is that when I first heard/read it, it really was meant to apply to people who got offended over the dumbest things. In my understanding at least, SJWs were more trolls who knew you weren't actually trying to be offensive and just wanted to get a rise out of you. Or who actually were offended for stupid reasons. Legitimately stupid reasons. I still come close to using it that way before catching myself, because I'm not actually against social justice. I'm just against being a jerk about it.

[personal profile] hey_hey_hey 2019-03-24 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Who defends JKR at this point besides old school, hardcore OBHWF shippers who swear they love everything she writes or says and is offended by other peoples head canons and kids who grew up with the books that give her a pass due to nostalgia?

(Anonymous) 2019-03-24 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
First Mario cheats on Peach with Bowser. Now Bowswer be cheatin' on Mario with his brother. This long running soap opera just gets spicier with each season.

[personal profile] hey_hey_hey 2019-03-24 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
this has to be some kind of in-joke. Luigi and Bowser's complex relationship... What's the most complex the mario games have gotten? Rosalina's origin story, maybe?

Re: I don't care about Rowling's post canon comments, but.....

(Anonymous) 2019-03-24 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
To me, I would say that subtext is implicit in the text. So there's a specific pattern of codes or signs that underlines the thing in a way that's not explicitly mentioned but is undeniably present.

Whereas with Dumbledore and all, there's nothing that's really implicit. There's things that can be read a certain way, but it's equally plausible to read them as being nothing at all. Subtext is still part of the text, to me.

That's the line that I draw / where I'm kinda coming from.
kaijinscendre: (partydown)

Re: Ships you love with a fandom you hate

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2019-03-24 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I just wish it wasn't so...vanilla. I was under the impression the bulk of the fandom migrated from Teen Wolf (which migrated from Supernatural) but that can't be with how boring the fanfiction is.

Re: Do you think SJW is useful as a term?

(Anonymous) 2019-03-24 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Nope. IMHO anyone describing themself as a "warrior" shoots themself in the foot. Can't take them seriously. What is wrong with "activist"? can't we go bacl to that instead?

(Anonymous) 2019-03-24 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Better how? In terms of relationship dynamics, character aesthetics, stories, genre, et cetera? It might be fun to ask your friend exactly what she likes about her ships and then compare and contrast those specific qualities to your own. They might prove more different than first thought. Sometimes bonding over differences in ships can prove just as entertaining as similarities, I have found.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-24 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Just because they won't be having sex on screen doesn't mean their relationship isn't going to get more focus in the last 3 movies.

Re: Do you think SJW is useful as a term?

(Anonymous) 2019-03-24 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think SJW is a useful term to capture that dynamic, though, because its use is not at all limited to those contexts. Most of the time it's used by people who think that's an accurate description of everyone who cares about social justice at all.

[personal profile] hey_hey_hey 2019-03-24 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I think fandom forgets that most people watch tv shows casually and don't analyze every episode and are barely aware who created the show let alone what art she drew 10,000 years ago.
Edited 2019-03-24 20:29 (UTC)

Who are your favorite morally grey characters?

(Anonymous) 2019-03-24 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Or characters that have moved from villain to hero OR hero to villain (and back).

Re: I don't care about Rowling's post canon comments, but.....

(Anonymous) 2019-03-24 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
it's equally plausible to read them as being nothing at all.

If Dumbledore's relationship with a woman was described the same way it was described with Grindelwald, nobody would be questioning it.

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