[ SECRET POST #4495 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4495 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #644.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

IRL LOL

[(Anonymous)]

It feels like the fan was talking about any Kylo fan who didn't think he was pure evil or who sympathized with him in any way,

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

Not me, (and a number of people here) porn is my least favourite part of fanfiction, and more often than not ruins the storyline because it seems to be more important to the plot for most people.

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

But the question still has to be whether the criticism is legitimate or not. Sure, she wouldn't be criticized as much if she was a man, because we let male celebrities get away with insane amounts of bullshit. Chris Brown still has a career, etc. But that doesn't mean that the criticism is illegitimate, or that it wouldn't be worth making if she was a man.

And I don't think the criticism is nitpicking, I think it's substantive, or at least there's substance present. I think it's pretty chickenshit to act like your work is beyond criticism, for one thing.

Re: Popular Characters In Fiction You Would Willingly Argue Were Trans Even to a Very Skeptic Audien

[(Anonymous)]

Nope.

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

DA
now i want to know lol 😂

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

Then why all focus on her, when there's much more terrible people in the industry? Is it because she's less threatening and more accessible than the Chris Browns and Roman Polanskis of entertainment?

[(Anonymous)]

It really was. And “a group of different people coming together and getting along” while fighting bad guys/saving the world/generally stopping bad shit from happening is what I like about superhero teams. (They don’t even have to like each other! So long as they like beating up villains more than they disapprove of each other.) I can’t tell you how utterly disappointed I was when the MCU leaned hard into the interpersonal strife-laden drama of the later phases of their story arcs, :(

Re: Popular Characters In Fiction You Would Willingly Argue Were Trans Even to a Very Skeptic Audien

[(Anonymous)]

I like how this implies I'd be willing to argue anything in front of a very Skeptical Audience

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know how bad he really is if he helped save the world. Plus being brainwashed means he wouldn't be fully responsible for the bad stuff he did.

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

Again, I don't think that makes the criticism wrong

[(Anonymous)]

+10000000

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

[meredith44]

It doesn't necessarily ruin the movie for me, but it gives me a different viewing experience. My second (or third, fourth, more) viewing will be with the knowledge from the movie, so I'd prefer to see it first unspoiled. As once I know anything, I will not be able to have that experience.

[(Anonymous)]

Can someone tell me why Tony is so hated? I'm not super into the MCU. I barely even remember what happened in Infinity War.

Re: Popular Characters In Fiction You Would Willingly Argue Were Trans Even to a Very Skeptic Audien

[(Anonymous)]

Cameron in Ferris Bueller's Day Off, a bunch of Keanu Reeves characters

[(Anonymous)]

Yep. This. Oh so much, this. There’s only so many times that you can hear, “He/She is awful, and your opinion is wrong, and here’s all the reasons why you suck, and why this character you like is the Actual Worst,” before you start to feel somewhat attacked, despite all determination to keep out of the fray. Especially when you’ve actually made attempts to curate your fandom activity to stay in character-positive spaces. Double especially when the reasoning behind this character being the Actual Worst is that he/she is not the random commenter’s favourite character and/or was once in conflict (combat or otherwise) with the random commenter’s favourite character.

[(Anonymous)]

For me it was Civil War that made me dislike him. I know they tried to make both sides understandable, but for me Tony was clearly in the wrong from the beginning, and even though I sympathized with him about his parents, he knew Bucky wasn't the one who was to blame. A little bit of fighting in that scene was understandable. It went on too long, though, for me to be able to find Tony's POV understandable.

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

I guess, that's where we differ, because I think most of the criticism towards is so nitpicky, it's not worth bringing up, despite some truth.

[philstar22]

Oh I agree with that. Not canon, not going to be canon.

[(Anonymous)]

Woobification is annoying and unfortunately ubiquitous, but honestly I'm more annoyed by this condescending as shit attitude people take towards these "delusional" fans.

How about being a little more charitable? Like maybe, instead of assuming they're dumb and don't know any better, assume that woobifying Kylo Ren is just THEIR jam?

On a side note, I'm really put off by all these actors giving us gentle reminders that villains are villains.

ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

lol crap, I guess I'll have to watch Civil War again to understand

[(Anonymous)]

That's how I feel about Bucky, and I don't even like him that much as a character. But I see people actually blaming him for things he did while brainwashed and it is just so ludicrous I end up defending a character I rarely talk about otherwise.

[(Anonymous)]

The fact that we have people in this comm dedicated to keeping it going by making secrets out of other people's comments is cool. Props to the people doing that.

HOWEVER, I think it does lead to even more of a feeling that people keep harping on the same basic gripes over and over. Like, I think this might've been something I said, just sort of off-handedly, in a comment a few days back? (I genuinely can't remember. The word "hateboner" feels a little bit more inflammatory than I'd usually use, but the sentiment sounds like mine.) But I'm pretty sure I was agreeing with someone else, on a thread that was already pretty much finished. I never would've posted this as a secret of it's own, because good lord are you right that we've argued enough about Tony Stark for a lifetime.

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

There were articles about how Dumbledore wouldn't be explicitly gay in the movies. A homophobic ass can watch Crimes of Grindlewald and come away thinking that Dumbledore isn't gay.