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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-05-11 03:23 pm

[ SECRET POST #4509 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4509 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Murders]


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[Shadowhunters]


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[Saved By the Bell]


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[art by echeverita]


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[Hyperbole and a Half]


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[Peter Mayhew (who played Chewbacca) and Carrie Fisher]

















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(Anonymous) 2019-05-11 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe somewhat but it's not like she should be immune from criticism either

(Anonymous) 2019-05-11 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Where in the secret does it say she'd be immune?

(Anonymous) 2019-05-11 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Her and pretty much every damn female celebrity.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-11 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
But how much of that is because we just don't really criticize male celebrities for anything at all short of decades' worth of physical or sexual abuse?

This.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-11 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
+100000000000000000000

(Anonymous) 2019-05-11 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT maybe i'very missed something. What is she being criticised for??

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-11 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah this. Can't wait for this place to inevitably try to argue against this though.

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-11 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Girl or guy, it doesn't change the fact she can't enunciate her words.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-11 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
You sound white as hell if you think that's the main criticism she faces

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-11 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
white woman faced with criticism for brownface. only explanation? sexism

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I've worked with Italians with her skin tone.

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-11 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
The only Italian dude I know of who fake tans that hard is Pauly D.

So... I don't know if your point holds up to scrutiny.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-11 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
does she get it worse bc she's female? probably

would people still make fun of a white guy who suddenly started acting like a black guy or a white guy who got a japanese tattoo with the wrong characters? absolutely

(Anonymous) 2019-05-11 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I think some of the criticism against her would still be there, but not all of it, and not with the same tone.

IMO a lot of people look for reasons to disparage and dismiss female celebrities, in a way that they don't for male celebs*. And when they find something, anything, there's a kind of enjoyment and public contagiousness to the disparagement and dismissal that isn't usually there with male celebs.

*This generalization excludes the fairly small but vocal minority of over-the-top SJWs who perceive misogyny in every single thing a man says and have zero sense of scale or situational complexity. Those people exist too, they're just a much smaller percentage of the population IMO.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-11 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
This is real bad timing when she just when on a multitweet rant complete with slurs about how the pro-choice movement is turning fetuses into burgers. I'd criticize that coming from a man, too.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-11 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I googled it, checked her twitter, and I'm getting nothing. Links?

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greghousesgf: (Bertie ?!)

[personal profile] greghousesgf 2019-05-11 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know about that but I find her music very boring.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-11 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
How does that make her committing brownface any better? inb4 she’s Italian!!! Defense this is her real skin tone

https://images.app.goo.gl/diEVd5uA3ZLVBQka6

(Anonymous) 2019-05-11 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Italian people are descended from Romans who had slaves from all over the world so they tend to be a little bit more mixed race looking than most European people. (Spanish people also often have African ancestors because of historical reasons).

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-12 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
Didn't her fucking concert mean a bunch of straight girls overtaking Pride at one point, making a number of LGBTQ+ people feeling uncomfortable on what's supposed to be their event?

(Anonymous) 2019-05-12 06:41 am (UTC)(link)
Ummm, so we're blaming her for shit her fans are doing?

Seriously?

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-12 01:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, probably. I don't know much about this person, but even if 100% of the criticism she has received is well-founded, you're probably still right, because people are just more willing to criticize women.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-12 03:13 pm (UTC)(link)
italians (especially italian americans) are spicy white. they're still white though and ariana deserves every bit of criticism for her brown faced bullshit.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-14 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
i agree. i also feel like a lot of the criticism has an undertone of "we liked you better when you were happy".