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⌈ Secret Post #5396 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

As someone who's never had a trans headcanon for a character and can count my lgbt+ ships on one hand with fingers left over, it's not a weird conspiracy on the part of fans; people who think of characters as trans or gay or whatever just... like the idea of their favorite characters being lgbt+. It's not that deep.

[tabaqui]

Omg, Julie Benz! I shall have to watch this.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT--the worst violations I've ever dealt with were at the literal hands of another cis woman and yet somehow I just have to deal with cis women having hands and I myself am a cis woman with hands. If I objected to working and existing around cis women's hands I would be rightfully told to a) get therapy and b) learn to live with it.

Why does bring a 5th wheel suck so much?

[(Anonymous)]

Even worse than being a third wheel. My sister, her fiance, and I were going to dinner. His best friend was in the area and they've not seen each other in a couple years. So he decided to meet up with us with his new girlfriend. I felt so awkward in begged off going to get drinks after dinner. Just depressing I guess. Especially when the people around you are so much more interesting.

[(Anonymous)]

i mean... media is chock full of men and women just being friends, it's not like there's any shortage of that. sometimes we'd like to see two men or two women who are more than just friends, because it's still pretty rare to get to see that in mainstream published media.

to turn it around, why is it also still so rare to see cases of a man and a woman who are just friends and who never end up with any sort of romantic subplot? a man and a woman can also care about each other deeply without it leading to some kind of sexual interaction, yet no one ever seems to complain when they end up getting paired together. don't you think it's more than a little hypocritical to complain about people wanting two men or two women to end up as a couple but being totally fine with a man and a woman always ending up paired together?

Re: Why does bring a 5th wheel suck so much?

[(Anonymous)]

Oof, I felt that. Seems whenever I try to show up anywhere, I'm always the one who doesn't "have" people. Even if you're generally comfortable with yourself it really can feel awkward.

[(Anonymous)]

wooooooooooooooooooooooooooow

[(Anonymous)]

My question with this is always - people can have trauma over a bunch of different things, right? Penises aren't the only thing that people can have trauma about. And having trauma sucks. It's shitty and we should absolutely do what we can to help people who have that trauma in whatever way they need help. It's not something we can just ask people to get over, we should provide whatever support we can and whatever accommodations are reasonably possible for whatever kind of trauma you want to talk about. But it seems to me like you can't actually plan your social support systems around every form of trauma that someone might hypothetically have. And it feels like the primary reason for emphasizing this one form of trauma as against any other form of trauma is, frankly, prejudice. So it just doesn't seem like a good justification.

IDK. That's just how I see it.

[(Anonymous)]

This is the same mood for me disliking most trans headcanons because it's always the guys with "girly" interests who are hced as trans women and vise versa. >|

[(Anonymous)]

"Utereus-haver might not be able pump out babies" is a hell of a thing to prioritize over the kid's mental health.

[(Anonymous)]

Fuck off and eat shit, transphobe, I hope you die alone and miserable like the refuse on the bottom of my shoe you are <3

[(Anonymous)]

By your logic, all shelters should be separated by race because what if a white woman has trauma related to black people

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah this is always my question about trans characters in fantasy and SF settings

[(Anonymous)]

I have literally never seen any of my roommates' genitals, so where are you getting the idea that people in shelters are going to know if any of the women they're sharing with have penises..... unless they inquire, which is invasive and should not be done ever just to satisfy the worry that they miiight?

Re: Why does bring a 5th wheel suck so much?

[(Anonymous)]

Oh lordie, OP, you're in the same boat as I'm about to be tomorrow. I'm going to go to a Halloween event, and I only know a single person there. I sympathize a lot, and hope that others still enjoyed your company a lot.

[sabotabby]

This is among the many things I wonder about transphobes. Like, in my regular course of affairs I don't see the genitals of anyone I'm not having sex with, including people I've lived with and shared washrooms with, and is it that different for other people? Am I just very prudish and everyone else in the world is running around with their bits flapping out when I don't notice?

[(Anonymous)]

I agree! They both have interesting love lives as well, another reason they don't need that kind of relationship with each other. I also like that them not being together or interested in each other romantically isn't interpretable as a no-homo thing since Tuca is openly bi.

Speckle is great too. I thought at first that he was going to be a problematic boyfriend that Bertie ended up dumping to move back in with Tuca, and I'm so glad I was wrong.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, same. It's ridiculously sexist when you get right down to it: this character doesn't have traditionally masculine/feminine interests, so therefore they must not really be a man/woman!

Re: What's for dinner, FS?

[(Anonymous)]

McD fishwich and fries bc I'm too tired after today's customer related bullshit to actually make anything myself, at 9 pm

[(Anonymous)]

The problem is, trauma isn't logical. It's trauma.

If a cis woman is in a shelter because she's been raped and abused by a man, and has serious trauma about being in close quarters with somebody with XY anatomy, the fact that trans women are women isn't going to make that any better or less traumatising for her.

It doesn't matter how much you cry 'transphobia' and get all lower-case angry about it, it's not that woman's fault that she's terrified to be in a room with somebody with XY anatomy. It's just how it is. And while transwomen are women, they have the XY anatomy. It goes beyond genitals. Late transitions have the wide shoulders and general outline of cis men. That can be triggering to somebody who has experienced trauma at the hands of men.

That isn't to say that transwomen don't belong in womens shelters, but there's a lot more nuance than you are putting into this. You're a shitty person, elevating one woman's trauma over another. Both can coexist without being shut up in a room together at the expense of one's comfort. Stop being a dickbag and pitting the different trauma of women and transwomen against each other.

It's great that you advocate for transwomen. What fuels the fire of the terf dipshits is that you're advocating for them at the expense of cis women with real, deep-seated trauma. Women and transwomen are not the same. They have different fights. There's a lot of intersection, of course there is, but to act like there's no difference between the two is absurd.

(The stupid bathroom debate does not enter into this, since a cis man can easily walk into a woman's bathroom at any time and do what they want -- there's no cameras, there's no penis alarms, it's a strawman argument. Shelters, however, are different.)

You do not put somebody with trauma in a room with the thing that causes that trauma. You don't put an arachnophobe in a room with a spider. You don't lock somebody terrified of dogs in a room with a dog. You don't put a transwoman in a room with a bunch of men if she's bean beaten up by men. You don't put a woman who is scared of being raped by a cis man in a room with somebody with XY anatomy, no matter how she identifies.

It's not fair on either of them and no self-respecting transwoman, either pre- or post gender confirmation surgery, would demand to be put in a room with a traumatised rape victim to prove a point and if she does then she, like you, is a fucking dick. No transperson I know (and I know a lot, since they're my community) would advocate for putting their comfort over another victim's when there was literal trauma on the table.

There should be different comfort levels at women's shelters. Some cis women are more or less happy to be with a transwoman. Some, the ones mentioned in the rest of this post, are not, and that's understandable. It's not deliberate discrimination, it's trauma. You don't get to tell a traumatised person that they're being stupid or cruel. You don't get the blame a victim for their traumatized reactions to triggers out of their control. If people could control their reactions to triggers, they wouldn't be fucking triggers.

Get bent.

[(Anonymous)]

It's also a bit oof to suggest that a nonbinary Westerner who finds themselves relating to a cis male from a Chinese canon and projects onto that character for comfort is being racist. Cultural differences are always going to influence what people personally get from things.

I know not all people with these headcanons have them for that reason, but you can't assume that they're all just cis people accidentally being racist for nb ally points.

[sabotabby]

But she's established that when you're taking polyjuice, you retain your gender, which is why Hermione is still she/her when she's polyjuiced into Harry. Also I hate that I know this ugh.

SA

[(Anonymous)]

In other words I feel this is a disingenuous argument and "that's racist" in fandom almost always has some underlying concern-trollish agenda that's not really concern for racism at all. Like the "racebending Asian characters as black is racist because you think Asians aren't POC enough" is usually just a cover for "I don't want to see this beautiful character I love reimagined as *shudder* black"

[(Anonymous)]

It sucks what happened to you, and yes, you should say you're uncomfortable around women, but I'm going to hazard a guess and say more cis women have been hurt, abused, sexually assaulted and murdered by people born with dicks than AFAB XX people.

[(Anonymous)]

da

I'm not sure whether you're a troll or just incredibly dim, but acknowledging the potential side effects of a medication is not prioritizing having babies over a kid's mental health. It is, in fact, a crucial element of the decision-making process, and of that whole "informed consent" thing.