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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-05-05 05:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #5964 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5964 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-05-05 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I am trying not to be judgmental here, but you're telling me that this anime gacha game is the first canon you've ever consumed where you thought the female characters were well-fleshed-out and interesting enough to ship?

(Anonymous) 2023-05-05 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Doesn't seem unusual to me. I've got exactly one het ship and one femslash. Everything else is m/m for me.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-05 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
There's nothing wrong with just liking slash more and not shipping het or femslash because you don't want to. But to say that you've just never watched anything with any interesting female characters?

(Anonymous) 2023-05-05 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
AYR

Most female characters are written to be female first and character maybe. I'm the anon that someone here loves to call a troll because I grew up in the middle of bumfuck nowhere in a religious town and only had TV as my link to the outside world, and related only to male characters because they were allowed to BE characters (and not just love interests destined to be wives and baby makers), and thus for a while thought I might be a dude.

I've found as time goes on that more and more female characters ARE being written as more character than female as to be enjoyable to watch, but a lot of writers who can pull off that apparently amazing feat don't seem to be able to hit the spot for me with making them interesting enough to read about/shippable. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

(Anonymous) 2023-05-05 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
How old are you and how did you miss The X-Files and Buffy?

(Anonymous) 2023-05-06 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Or Babylon 5?

(Anonymous) 2023-05-06 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
Don't know how to break this to you buddy, but those shows happened quite some time ago and a new generation of teens/young adults are more likely to not see have seen those shows.

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(Anonymous) 2023-05-05 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah - again I'm trying not to be judgmental, but like you say, the way that female characters are written in general has changed so much in the last twenty years that it seems like you would have to have incredibly particular media consumption habits to avoid ever running into interesting ones. Which is still possible ofc.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-06 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
+1

DA

(Anonymous) 2023-05-05 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I get what you're saying and sure there's a lot of characters like that, but there are a lot that are not and for OP to say they have never seen any good female characters? What kind of crap is OP watching?

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(Anonymous) 2023-05-05 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Reply to all 3 above -

I lived in the middle of bumfuck nowhere religiousville, so guess what kind of shows the stations there would play. We were also poor. No cable for me.

Also, I finally did see Buffy once I got to college; it bored the crap out of me.

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(Anonymous) 2023-05-05 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I am so sick of this narrative.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-05 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Same

(Anonymous) 2023-05-05 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
This hasn't been true since the 90's, much less now and people who keep trying to insist this is true need to watch different media because at this point it's a you thing.

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(Anonymous) 2023-05-06 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I can relate. There's just ... very little overlap with what scriptwriters think is sweet or loving and what actually reaches me.

Fanfiction has been very helpful for me, there. There are a lot of female characters that are a complete miss, for me, in canon, that become delightful and relatable and even shippable, in the hands of some fan authors.

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(Anonymous) 2023-05-05 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll be judgmental for you, because /what the hell./

(Anonymous) 2023-05-05 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

It happens. Western romance rubbed me the wrong way all the time in practically everything, until I was in my late thirties or so.* I was amazed as a kid when I started reading manga and finding some of the straight relationships compelling.

*except for one classic novel that has very little in the way of predecessors or descendants. So thinking "where can I find more of this?" didn't get me very far.

If the OP hasn't had much contact with the wealth of different ways to be emotionally intimate in Asian media, I can see Genshin being a revelation. I prefer Japanese stories, but they're drawing from compatible ideas of what (else) romance can involve.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-06 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT but just to be clear, I understand not liking het romance in canons! The same way I totally get how some people just prefer slash ships. It's specifically the idea that the root cause has to do with a lack of fleshed out female characters in all other non-Genshin canons that seems surprising.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-06 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
I've played a ton of Genshin Impact and none of these characters are fleshed out.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-06 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
thissssssss

(Anonymous) 2023-05-06 09:41 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I don't know. My heart bled for Trofin Snezhevich.

(The B__ G__ From Vimara Village, don't ask if you don't want spoilers for Sumeru.)

(Anonymous) 2023-05-06 12:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Lmaooo

(Anonymous) 2023-05-06 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
This is so funny to me because i find a lot of the female GI characters much more lacking in their characterisation and reduced to their waifu-ness than most of the male characters.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-06 08:02 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-06 09:43 am (UTC)(link)
Right? I'm not sure what they have in mind, but I wish I knew, because it would be nice to enjoy the characterizations of the playable girls more.