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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-06-16 06:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #6006 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6006 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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(Anonymous) 2023-06-16 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
allow only birth woman in pro sports and then we'll talk about how these events are meaningless. I agree with JKR here.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-16 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
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though no idea about the demands becides the 'female only spaces' that is seen here. Maybe those gatherings are phobic, idk.

There's a troll in the dungeon!

(Anonymous) 2023-06-16 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
So just blindly supporting JKR without actually knowing what the topic was. I see.

Re: There's a troll in the dungeon!

(Anonymous) 2023-06-16 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with JKR based on the secret, that's all.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-16 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Look up the naturally occurring testosterone levels in professional cis female athletes and how many many cis women have been treated by sports committees for those levels, not to mention the intrusive as hell tests that they were forced to undergo (and which bigots would love to force even child athletes to undergo under the disguise of "defending womenhood") and then you can sit at the adult's table to talk about gender and sports.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-16 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Men putting on a wig and claiming they're a woman after being a failure in men sports = women having testosterone due an abnormal process in the hormones. Right, if that's the adult's table, then I'll stay here.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-16 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
It's amazing. Nearly a century of feminists campaigning for women to be allowed to compete with men because athletics should be based on skill and not gonads, and it took a handful of years for some of you to jump right into the "cis woman are delicate and frail and must be kept in their segregated places and protected from contact with rogue Y chromosomes at all costs." What other activities do you think we should segregate women from? Higher education, perhaps? Politics? Should we allow women to drive, do you think, or are they at too much of a disadvantage because of all the genetically-superior men on the roads?

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, it took centuries for women to have their space and now are men that want that piece too.
Or are you telling me now that trans women helped these women to have their space too?

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(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
DA

But I don't buy this. Do you see trans men banging down the door arguing that they should be allowed to compete against men? Because I haven't. Has anyone seen trans men raising hell about how they're not imprisoned in men's prisons? Haven't seen that, either.

I care very little about sports, and wouldn't mind if there were categories that people could participate in regardless of gender. But what seems blatantly unfeminist to me, here, is attempting to equate difference with inferiority.

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(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
Women can compete with men in men's sports all they want. They just need to get over never winning any records again.
Seriously, just look up men's records and women's records in any given sport and then try to argue again. It's not just about testosterone, it's also about bone density and muscle size, size of extremities etc. Stop pretending to be an idiot who thinks there are no biological differences between men and women. I'm not agreeing with JKR and I can't stand her but this is just a ridiculous level of wilful ignorance on your part.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-16 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt
yeah, no. Muscles are muscles. I do not care about chemicals and medicine as much. Though it's sus how many athlets have asthma.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-16 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh... I guess you've never seen the science on it (hint, there is no possible test that both includes all cis and excludes all trans). Also, does that mean intersex can never be professional sports players? Seems like discriminating against someone based on their birth sex is an asshole move.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-16 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt
well, not allowing female athlets to win is a descrimination I agree.
idk how intersex people did in sports before and how they're doing now.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-16 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe you should do your research then. It is an actually pertinent aspect to the discussion about how naturally-occurring hormones affect performance in sports.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-16 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Muscles and build > hormones.
Seeing girls cry because some beardead athlet that was 300th in male competition before beat them is enough research for me.

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(Anonymous) 2023-06-16 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait, do you think that if trans women are allowed to compete in sports, cis women won't win anymore? That is so massively offensive to cis female athletes.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-16 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Not to mention starkly at odds with the actual data.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Trans women are bio males with usually more of an strength advantage. Biologically, they can beat cis women in many sports.

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(Anonymous) 2023-06-16 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Eat literal shit, TERF

(Anonymous) 2023-06-16 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
no u

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Why should TERFs copy your life?

(Anonymous) 2023-06-18 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
I'm actually living my best life, I just have no tolerance for TERFs and their misery trying to bring me down. If they really wanted to copy my life, their gender would be an expression of joy and not equating womanhood to pain and suffering at every turn.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 04:59 am (UTC)(link)
Nah. Performance levels are comparable between cis women and trans women when it comes to sports.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 08:11 am (UTC)(link)
wrong.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
We know you are, troll.