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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-06-23 02:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #900 ]


⌈ Secret Post #900 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Scrubs]


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[Daniel Radcliffe & Tom Felton]


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[Phantom of the Opera]


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[Vampire Knight, Twilight]


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[Total Eclipse]


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[Constantine]


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[Secret Diary of a Call Girl]


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[Stephen Colbert]


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[LOST]



Notes:

Sorry for the earliness.

Secrets Left to Post: 09 pages, 207 secrets from Secret Submission Post #129.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken ], [ 1 2 3 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - doing it wrong ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2009-06-23 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
N!S, N!F, etc.
pikabot: (W. T. F.)

[personal profile] pikabot 2009-06-23 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Doing it wrong: 'slash-like het relationships'?

[identity profile] snowdevil-crow.livejournal.com 2009-06-23 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
... maybe they mean much loved and preferred by most in fandom? o.0

Though, those kinds of het pairings still exist... idk.

(Anonymous) 2009-06-23 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope not, that'd be rather entitled of them. I know slash is a big thing in fandom, but so is het (Since for the most part it's usually canon)

ext_10249: (so you think you can dance)

not the OP

[identity profile] nicole-anell.livejournal.com 2009-06-24 02:36 pm (UTC)(link)
See below (uh, UNDER the giant thread of wank). Best guess is she means het relationships that aren't really "together" in canon at first, but get a huge fandom following based on innuendo and subtext. But unlike slash, they have a real chance of becoming canon onscreen and the writers are more likely to embrace their fans. That's the OP's issue, and why she thinks het fans have no right to complain about anything.

/OP-to-English translation

[identity profile] sessile29.livejournal.com 2009-06-23 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe you'd have to be a fan of slash to begin with to understand what the OP is driving at, but often in slash there is a dynamic where the characters are unquestionably on equal ground (within the confines of the relationship) and neither character gets defined along gender lines or is restricted in any way because of their gender. (For instance - Barney's a womanizer, but not because it's an expression of his manliness, but because he's Barney.)

Some other slash-like het pairings in my mind:
Kira/Dukat
Bond/M
Mara Jade/Luke
Buffy/Spike
pikabot: (gar!simon)

[personal profile] pikabot 2009-06-23 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
That is not slash-like. That's just equal. The OP's wording implies that slash has some sort of monopoly on it. Horse shit.

[identity profile] sessile29.livejournal.com 2009-06-23 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, you see it a hell of lot more often in slash pairings than you do in het. Actually, it's fairly common in slash, so if you come from a standpoint where most of your pairings are slash, you might be more inclined to refer to that sort of het pairing as slash-like.

(Anonymous) 2009-06-23 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Slash likes to think it's great at this, but it's not really much better than het or yaoi(sp?). And yes, I am a slasher. You probably just know where to look for the half decent stuff and have lower standards for slash because you like it.

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(Anonymous) 2009-06-23 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
A monopoly? Of course not (and there's always poor, forgotten femslash). But slash pairings and slash fic tend to be rather more equal than het pairings and fic, if for no other reason than societal and cultural gender mores. And as someone who reads both het and slash, and who reads a lot of both, in many fandoms, I do see a real and appreciable difference.

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(Anonymous) 2009-06-23 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe you'd have to be a fan of slash to begin with to understand what the OP is driving at

God, will you please just shut up already? Frankly you make slash sound like some cult where you have to join and do a lot of groveling to get to know the ~secret~ rules. And I'm saying this as a person who still reads and ships slash more than het (or femme slash). It might surprise you but some people like pairings for the characters and not their gender.

And calling pairings with strong female characters "slash-like" is just insulting.
pikabot: (doktor sleepless whatevercakes)

[personal profile] pikabot 2009-06-23 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
And calling pairings with strong female characters "slash-like" is just insulting.

Haha, thanks, I knew something about this was bugging me that I was missing.

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[identity profile] agnes-perdita.livejournal.com 2009-06-24 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
...wow, my interpretation of that phrase is completely different from the one that's getting discussed in these threads. In the context of the rest of the secret, I took it to mean ships where the romantic potential is largely subtextual and which a large contingent of fans have picked up on as a distinct possibility. In a way, I would say that Zutara would be a 'slash-like het relationship' in that it was never going to happen and all the possible ways of interpreting Zuko and Katara's relationship as romantic/more than platonic were incidental to the creators' intentions (which usually involve either keeping the two characters as friends, pairing them up with different characters, focusing on the plot instead of the relationship drama etcetc.) Penny/Sheldon from Big Bang Theory might be another one.

[identity profile] agnes-perdita.livejournal.com 2009-06-24 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Not the OP either, just my interpretation of what the phrase could mean.

(Anonymous) 2009-06-24 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
That was my interpretation as well (and also I got the impression that anon might not speak English as their first language?). But the discussion above has been chock-full of lulz, so I would invite them to carry on anyway. *pulls up a chair, puts on srs face*
ext_10249: (so you think you can dance)

[identity profile] nicole-anell.livejournal.com 2009-06-24 02:26 pm (UTC)(link)
*snerk* You know, when I saw the secret I thought there might be wank, but I didn't think it would all stem out of someone misinterpreting one badly-worded phrase.

AND THAT'S WHY YOU SHOULD WRITE CLEARLY, ANONYMOUS.

[identity profile] snowdevil-crow.livejournal.com 2009-06-24 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Heh, that's what I was thinking, too, actually. ^^'
ext_10249: (gaeta)

[identity profile] nicole-anell.livejournal.com 2009-06-24 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)
This, exactly. And I don't necessarily agree with the OP either, but I think that's what she was driving at -- het couples that aren't really "together" but get a fandom following based on subtext and innuendo. (Most of her examples were not introduced as romantic ships.) Their ships might end up taken seriously by the writers and actually becoming a reality one day onscreen, and slash fans don't have that.

Doing it wrong 2

(Anonymous) 2009-06-23 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL what the hell is a 'slash-like het' relationship?

N!S 1

[identity profile] sdissynthium.livejournal.com 2009-06-23 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm the exact same way. King of the Hill has seriously got to be my #1 cheer-up show right now. And I rarely even watch TV anymore.

Doing It Wrong

[identity profile] websofseaweed.livejournal.com 2009-06-23 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
...bwuh?

N!S 1

[identity profile] mireia-antonina.livejournal.com 2009-06-23 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Why would it be sad?

N!S2

(Anonymous) 2009-06-23 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Thiiiiiiiiiiis. It's not the internet's job to keep you spoiler free, especially when those "spoilers" have been out for months or years.

Re: N!S2

[identity profile] omorka.livejournal.com 2009-06-23 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Snape kills Trinity with Rosebud and is Luke's father.

Not!Secret #1

[identity profile] rabbitucker.livejournal.com 2009-06-23 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I fail to see anything pathetic about it.