[ SECRET POST #6333 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6333 ⌋

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[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

I mean, I feel like that's kinda what it's for. It is designed to be trashy fandombait. I don't think it's bad in a not-fun way, it's more bad in an insubstantial way. More like twinkies than fruitcake. Anyway I'd say, who gives a shit if it's bad, just have fun.

[(Anonymous)]

OP - Yeah, I do at least find it fun, and I definitely think it's meant to be fun. But personally I also feel like it's trying a bit too hard to actually say something for it to be twinkie-level fun. It feels like it's trying to engage with about a hundred different narrative elements, and really not engaging effectively with...almost any of them?

Which is what takes it from "shallow fluff" to "hot mess" for me. But! It's a fun hot mess, for sure! And in all fairness to HH, I wouldn't be as weirdly into it as I am if it were merely fluff. It's the messy, doing-a-hundred-things-but-nothing-quite-lands quality that makes it so hard for me to just drop it from my mind.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel kinda the same, in that HH is not my kind of show at all. And while I have no desire to binge watch it again or engage in any fanstuff with it, I kinda sorta enjoyed just turning my brain off and just watching it for funsies and yeah, it was funsies. At the least, I liked Lucifer precisely because he's dapper, but also a failure in that affectionate he's-trying-really-hard kinda way.

[paperghost]

Having potential but being average (or bad, depending on who you ask) is the appeal of Hazbin IMO. I stopped caring after a week, but when I watched season one for bile fascination purposes I ended up reading a lot of theories for season two and sketched some redesigns. It's fandombait made by a DeviantART/Tumblr user who was in fandoms growing up.

[(Anonymous)]

OP - Fair enough. Seems like it worked in that regard! It still kind of feels to me like it's trying to do a bunch of stuff without really committing to any of it, and the extremely underbaked nature of it doesn't really feel intentional to me? But that's a very subjective opinion and I could well be wrong.

Also, for the record, I do think there's room for properties that are hot messes in the world. I'll take a hot mess that tries to do something cool over more bland, by-the-numbers stuff any day. :)

[paperghost]

It's something that would've worked better if it was 20 years older but I appreciate that it tried! I'm still waiting for season two regardless just to see what happens.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I'm definitely on-board for S2, in spite of (hell maybe because of) my belief that it's probably only going to get messier. XD

[(Anonymous)]

Not into this fandom, but I understand the appeal of something that's not great but has a lot of potential. The gaps are where your imagination kicks in! There's high-quality books/movies/TV shows that I enjoy very much but am not fannish about, and there's trashy stuff I don't enjoy, but there's definitely a sweet spot in the middle for "not great but catches my attention".

[(Anonymous)]

OP - This is extremely true! Most of the fandoms I've spent significant time in have been for things that were honestly mid (and often got pretty bad as they went on, lol). I'm not sure why HH feels like more of a "guilty pleasure" to me than my other fandoms. I think it's just messier? I wouldn't ask my friends to watch it with me because I feel like there's strong odds they would be like, "What the hell did I just watch? o_O"

[(Anonymous)]

Seconded! Stuff I think is genuinely great tends to make me wanna write meta but the fic and look-at-all-the-art urges come from good-but-had-so-much-potential.

[dani_phantasma]

I just feel like it hits a bunch of my personal appeal buttons and it's fun tbh Something about it just hits all the yes It's funny because years ago as a neurotic religious OCD little child I could have NEVER imagined even watching let alone being INTO something like this I was so weird about avoid satanic linked things I had an OCD complex about 6 , 3 and even multiples of the two (OCD is weird)

But in a weird way liking Hazbin almost feels healing for the religious OCD (possible religious trauma) part of me

ALSO YES RADIO APPLE FKin LOVE that ship

[(Anonymous)]

Wait, this actually made me want to watch it... I grew up Christian and have a lot of baggage related to that, and goofy edgy goth and horror stuff used to really speak to me when I was a kid and struggling with not feeling like I belonged at church. So I have a soft spot for that kind of thing and I might find it comforting in a similar way to you to watch a "bad" silly cartoon.

[dani_phantasma]

It really is good. At least to me. And honestly it ultimately with the whole view towards redemption and the hope for good in people. ..I feel like Hazbin Hotel gets some parts of the whole forgiveness thing better than a lot of modern American evangelism. "You Didn't Know" in episode 6 hits so hard for this very reason with it's plot involving a bunch of angels justifying what's essentially genocide with one idealistic, (but admittedly naive) angel being shocked by it all.

[(Anonymous)]

OP - I love that it could be this kind of a show for you!

I'm basically a born atheist. I feel like I don't have a religious bone in my body. I barely even have a spiritual bone in my body. So that may contribute to my quite critical opinion of how it executes (heh) it's themes and story arcs. It's definitely not tackling its subject matter in a way that clicks with me on a personal level. But I think it's really cool that HH can connect with others in a way that's personal and meaningful. That's really nice to hear!

ALSO YES RADIO APPLE FKin LOVE that ship

Yes! Radioapple! High five!!

[(Anonymous)]

*high five*!

I was brought up in a religious family in the Bible belt (Carolina) and I also had OCD (pretty severely at times) that is entirely to blame for some of the crazier stuff I believed bc of my OCD

Nowadays because of my experiences I consider myself privately practicing in the amount of my beliefs I still have I consider my religious beliefs a very personal thing and I honestly feel downright uncomfortable with some of the way American culture shoves religiousness in your face

[dani_phantasma]

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[(Anonymous)]

Back when I was dealing with some shitty stuff, my favorite fandoms and biggest fixations were things I didn't think were objectively very good— my brain loved "filling in" the gaps with my headcanons, and "fixing" the parts of canon I felt a bit underwhelmed by. I also loved lighthearted entertainment, and just didn't have the emotional energy to really enjoy deeper things. Nowadays I don't obsess over the same types of shows, but I still really enjoy things that are just entertaining and amusing when I'm feeling down or want to relax.

[(Anonymous)]

I relate to this as someone who is still struggling to come out of a long period of depression and found my first fandom hyperfixation in ages in Hazbin, haha. To me the "WHY" was less the show itself (which I consider firmly A Fun Time, if not much deeper than that) and more at getting into a fandom with so much drama and a dedicated hatedom, though.

Also, ymmv because we don't have the same OTP, but I've personally found my corner of the fandom social and generally friendly. I can't remember the last time I was in a fandom where people actually reached out to talk, and I'm writing fic again after a year and a half long break. So I've stopped thinking too much about the "WHY??" tbh.