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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-09-23 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #6471 ]


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[personal profile] feotakahari 2024-09-23 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
You can see the learning process across the different books of Twilight, e.g. later villains had better setup than in the first book. People loved book 1 anyway.

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(Anonymous) 2024-09-23 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
see: Harry Potter, Twilight

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(Anonymous) 2024-09-23 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Both can be true.

On one hand, you gain more experience as a writer the more you work on the craft, especially if it is for a living.

On the other, entertainment is an industry that also heavily depends on Who Do You Know, and the more money there is, the more nepotism, and thus opportunities.

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(Anonymous) 2024-09-24 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
It seems to me that you should basically just judge by the strength of the argument being made.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-24 02:45 am (UTC)(link)

I mean, that only holds if you assume that "it is possible to criticize this work" is the same thing as "this work is absolute, unredeemable garbage that nobody could possibly like". Which, spoilers, it is not.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-24 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
There's a couple things going on here.
One is that a lot of professionally-made, widely-distributed stuff is in fact just bad. (So is a lot of non-professional stuff, but that stuff is less likely to get constantly shoved in your face and widely criticized by smart people.)

Another one is that it's a lot easier to criticize something, and even come up with ideas for how it could be better, than it is to actually make the better thing (which most good critics will readily acknowledge!) The creators can very often criticize their work just as accurately as Random Blog, but they're the ones who have to deal with the realities of following through.

And another one is that one person with a social media account is one person. They might be a really smart person! (they might be a terrible person who is wrong about everything, but if so, you hopefully wouldn't be reading their blog.) Anything mass-published is made by more than one person; even a book by a single author is going to have editors, publishers, and agents poking at it, and a movie or TV show will have hundreds. Your odds of getting dozens of people working together to average out as good as that Outlier Smart Critical Blog are pretty low! (They probably average out better than a couple dozen randomly selected critical blogs, though. there's a lot of bad media criticism out there.)
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2024-09-24 08:50 am (UTC)(link)
i think the assumption that the criticism is coming from "normal" person when almost everyone with a professional career, including those with careers in storytelling, has a social media account, and the assumption that criticism has an objective standard that can be overcome with experience, are both a little off.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-24 10:49 am (UTC)(link)
Meh, can’t quite agree. In general humans are drawn to what's familiar more than what's new/different. Not all pieces of art are able to have the same levels of exposure. You can't account for all individual tastes merely based upon what everyone agrees is good/bad.

Sometimes, dumb shit is regarded as "good". Sometimes, I will pour my heart out about a piece of art/media that moved me and be met with blank stares and, "I didn't get it therefore I didn't like it."
Does it mean I have better taste than other people?
Fuck no.
I often think this means I have shit taste, and that's why I can't enjoy things seemingly everyone else likes a lot.

Sometimes, you just have to accept that crap is popular and quality stuff is misunderstood.
Sometimes, we get it right too though and the popular thing is worth the hype (and the shitty thing is flung into the dumpster by the general population and we never speak of it again).

(Anonymous) 2024-09-23 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
His plan to turn into a giant demon snake is actually a big part of why he was able to reach her. Giles lacked the background and training to deal with a slayer like Faith because she was incredibly messed up before her powers were activated. Part of why she went of the rails was to escape judgement for the shitty stuff she did. She lacked morals and had a big ego with zero self esteem and that’s always a bad combination.

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[personal profile] tabaqui 2024-09-24 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
I agree.
I will NEVER forgive Giles, Buffy, even Joyce for abandoning a traumatized minor in a skeevy hotel to just...go it alone. Yes, I know, they 'reached out' - but they were also incredibly judgemental (the Scoobies, too), jealous, and in general passive-agressive about her (especially Buffy, who didn't want to be the Slayer, wanted to do 'normal girl' stuff, then when she gets someone in her orbit who can actually take over some of the Slayer stuff she immediately gets all defensive and stupid).

Faith deserved a lot better, and if she'd been treated by the Scoobies, et al, more like the Mayor treated her (without encouraging her wild side), I don't think she'd have done most of the stuff she did.

TL:DR - Faith was not perfect, but she got treated like shite by everybody but the guy who wanted to become a demon and end the world.

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(Anonymous) 2024-09-24 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
I've always found their relationship really sweet. Not good exactly, but definitely sweet.

I guess the watchers council really just see slayers as disposable. The responsible thing to do for a slayer without a guardian would be to get them a secure place to live, like the mayor did, at the very least. And pay them.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-28 03:08 pm (UTC)(link)
imagine if anyone gave enough of a fuck about faith to look out for her instead of punishing her

i give buffy credit for trying but like, she's a child, faith's well-being shouldn't be her responsibility

(Anonymous) 2024-09-24 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
The name is very tempting-fatey for a rocket.

I don't want to be in a rocket that ends with a fireball.
--Crew of the Challenger, attrib.
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2024-09-23 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
What horror novels/movies have you enjoyed? Or what kind of horror in general?

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(Anonymous) 2024-09-23 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Relateable. I am tired of far wars, people trying to prove they are the biggest #1 super fan, and just general assholery. I have retreated from a few fandoms because of the drama. Unfortunately, one of the fandoms I'm a part of is known for being super toxic and it feels like I'm in an unhealthy relationship with it. I break away for awhile and then I go back eventually. I need to cut away for good but I am addicted or something.

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[personal profile] tabaqui 2024-09-24 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
I would pay money to see that, for sure. Fucking Disney.

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(Anonymous) 2024-09-24 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
Okay I'm a little freaked because I just finished playing all my energy and came to look at FS...

I can definitely see why casual ships would spawn from this. The little bits of dialogue are less bland than I expected, and the lightly-supernatural character designs are all pretty easy to attach bigger personalities to.

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NS, NF, etc.

[personal profile] fscom 2024-09-23 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
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Horror recs?

(Anonymous) 2024-09-23 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I want to get into the horror genre but I really only found one or two movies I like: the Ritual and Temple.

Reason why this is a challenge: I don't like scare chords, dolls, puppets or similar objects, and I dislike animals being harmed even if it's a CGI animal.

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