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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-10-18 05:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #6496 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6496 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2024-10-18 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean this in the kindest way possible, but you should find a job not working with children.

(Anonymous) 2024-10-18 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
+1
I was trying to think of a nice way to say that. The rest of the secret is totally lost on me because I cannot get beyond the fact that there are children in regular forced contact with someone who wants to do violence against them.

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(Anonymous) 2024-10-18 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)

The way you phrased it... you sound like you shouldn't be around children you have to take care of.

(Anonymous) 2024-10-18 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Commenters in this thread seem to take the secret verbatim, whereas I took it to be frustrated hyperbole. I would never throw my work laptop out of the window, but dear god, the amount of times I have told it that I will do it if it doesn't stop pissing me off is probably approaching triple digits.

If the worst OP does is play Animal Crossing when they have a tough day at work I really wouldn't start pearl clutching.

(Anonymous) 2024-10-18 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I think even if it is hyoerbole, if you regulalry get so angry/frustrated that you need calm down time after work, you should find another job but especially one not working with kids.

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(Anonymous) 2024-10-18 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
If OP really works with children, they know that even joking about hurting them is grounds for losing their job and having all their credentials revoked. Yeah it’s anonymous but the instinct is still to tone that shit down because it’s so drummed in. So either they’re a piece of shit who hates kids, they’re lying about their work, or they don’t care about joking about hurting children because they don’t care that it’s proven to enable abusers remain undetected.

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(Anonymous) 2024-10-19 09:55 am (UTC)(link)
What makes it different to me is that the number of people who have actually thrown their laptop out the window in a fit of rage is very low despite it being a pretty normal thing to say and imagine. The number of people who work with children and wind up getting violent with them isn't nearly as low. I wouldn't think someone who imagines hitting a child would definitely do it; there are probably many who don't, but admitting to thinking it when there are also many who do would make me not want to take the chance of putting them in charge of kids.

OP

(Anonymous) 2024-10-18 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
The amount of people on this thread who don't understand hyperbole is making me very sad. Some things about my situation I think I should add.

1. I work with gifted children.
2. I work with very rich gifted children.
3. I work with very rich, entitled, well-connected children.
4. I put this secret in the post thread (thank you secret maker!) in the very first weeks of school, when the shocking disrespect a lot of them showed me and others and their refusal to listen to basic instructions drove me to tears of frustration at least once. (Something I've now learned happens to every teacher in that school eventually.)
5. I can't believe I actually have to write this, but no - I would not and have never even actually considered hitting a child. Even if it wasn't evil and cruel, how the fuck would that help me or them? There's nothing productive in violence except to make me feel momentarily better and then much, much worse.
6. Can we please discuss the lovely stress-relief of Animal Crossing now?

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(Anonymous) 2024-10-18 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
You could have just left that part off though and chose not to. You can say it’s hyperbole all you want and draft lists of excuses but as any idiot knows, even joking about violence against children is wrong. And if you really have the job you claim you do, you would know that as a mandatory reporter.

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(Anonymous) 2024-10-18 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Rich kids are the worst.

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(Anonymous) 2024-10-18 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh they’re RICH kids? Well that’s ok then. /s

Get fucked, loser.

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(Anonymous) 2024-10-18 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
When I was studying to be a teacher, a professor straight up told us that we will have days that are so hard that they’ll make us cry and he wasn’t wrong. I like my job, but damn, there are days that just make me wanna get in my car and never come back, so I feel for you, OP. Hopefully things are better now and I’m glad you have a healthy outlet.

I’m not even gonna lie, I have caught myself thinking that some kids haven’t been smacked enough because of how they behave, but I know it’s a terrible thing to think and I would be horrified if I found out that someone had harmed a student of mine.

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(Anonymous) 2024-10-18 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
OP, this thread just makes me realise how much overworked, frustrated teachers just aren't really respected.

I get it. I work as a psych nurse with teenagers. Sometimes they can be violent, sometimes they can be jerks. A lot of time, the only way to deal is with black humour. (the difference being is that at least we have the capacity to deal with a violent youth, unlike a teacher. I have heard of the disrespect for teachers that can happen from students).

just because you're letting out your frustration doesn't mean you legit want to harm a child!I wish people would learn nuance

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[personal profile] feotakahari 2024-10-18 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
My kindergarten teacher thought I was a brat who hadn’t been disciplined enough. I had poor depth perception so I knocked things over sometimes, and I also didn’t understand questions that weren’t really questions. (“Would you like to pick your jacket up off the floor?” “No.”)

She didn’t need to hit me to make my life hell.

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(Anonymous) 2024-10-19 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
I work with very wealthy spoiled children and yeah, it can be a unique kind of frustrating. But as I would tell the kids in my care, word choice matters. You chose to express your frustration by saying you want to hit kids and that is not okay.

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(Anonymous) 2024-10-19 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think you're an asshole. Everybody's job sucks sometimes. I'm sure you wouldn't actually hit anybody.

I sometimes read the stories on the r/teachers subreddit (despite not being a teacher, someone linked it once) and am not only glad I'm not a teacher but glad I don't have kids.

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(Anonymous) 2024-10-19 09:56 am (UTC)(link)
Don't worry, OP, I understood your meaning perfectly. I feel like people either lose the ability to parse nuance the second children are mentioned, or the urge to appear morally better is just too strong. But everyone's on anon here, so I have no idea what for.

Hyperbole aside, I've had countless thoughts like "oh my god I want to hit her" or "just die already, you piece of shit" when I was furious at people. I hit or murdered exactly none of them, because they were just thoughts I've had when I was furious, tired and/or hungry. Thought crime isn't real. In fact, I'd be more wary of someone who insists a stranger online must be a dangerous psycho based on a single sentence than of someone who uses a slightly violent hyperbole. That's just me tho.

Also, I know people who have worked with children and they can learn CRAZY shit from their parents, including insults to lob at their caretakers and sexist statements that sound absolutely ridiculous in the mouth of a 5yo kid. I'd assume it's a bit difficult to stay angelically calm and devoid of stress when 20 kids are all making noise at the same time, you desperately need to piss but can't leave the room and little Timmy calls you a stupid whore for telling him to stop hitting his friend. But, again, that's just me.

But speaking of Animal Crossing, I've always wanted to try, but I've also never had the money to become a gamer :( But all I hear and see about this game sounds so fun and relaxing. Say hello to your villagers from me, OP ;w;

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(Anonymous) 2024-10-19 10:01 am (UTC)(link)
Damn, I should've finished reading this first. Well what I said above still stands so I'll post it again, but imagine it being phrased far less charitably (also, nice job with the pointing out that the kids you work with are rich, pulling the privilege card is an excellent distraction in lukewarmly left spaces like FS, and it sure worked):

What makes it different to me is that the number of people who have actually thrown their laptop out the window in a fit of rage is very low despite it being a pretty normal thing to say and imagine. The number of people who work with children and wind up getting violent with them isn't nearly as low. I wouldn't think someone who imagines hitting a child would definitely do it; there are probably many who don't, but admitting to thinking it when there are also many who do would make me not want to take the chance of putting them in charge of kids.

(Anonymous) 2024-10-19 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
It’s you, op. You’re the asshole.

(Anonymous) 2024-10-19 06:12 pm (UTC)(link)
nah

(Anonymous) 2024-10-19 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like every time a secret comes up that even mentions children, people just stop knowing what nuance is, like sheesh. I find it really hard to believe that nobody who is calling OP an asshole has ever had a nasty thought at the end of a particularly awful work day after being treated like garbage from the people you're trying to help. Or they've never worked in a service/client-facing role before, in which case I envy you like no tomorrow. It sucks being mistreated by the people you're dedicating your career to helping. Doubly when you have no recourse whatsoever because they learned that behavior from their parents.

Bratty kids can be incredibly frustrating, especially when you are overworked, underpaid, and they're being downright mean to you just because they can. It's not some personal failing to recognize you can't take your frustrations out in that direction (nor do you actually want to!) and have a de-stress ritual to deal with it. The commenters here actually kind of worry me with the level of vitriol they have over this. Reminds me of obsessive helicopter parenting. Don't do that to your kids, by the way.

(Anonymous) 2024-10-19 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Same.

I honestly find the comments more shocking than the secret.
As long as OP isn't doing it or telling the children about their feelings or making them feel like it (Yes, children can sense many things but I feel like some people think they can read minds and emotions 24/7 and get traumatised if they catch a stray bad thought), I see no problem. It was clearly a hyperbole.
I know PARENTS who've said something like that to me in a moment of utter frustration (on the phone, not in earshot of the kids), who'd rather hack off their own hands than raise them against their children.


(Anonymous) 2024-10-19 06:03 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sending you hugs, OP.
This comment section seems to be full of people who don't understand that thought crimes are NOT crimes.
(I bet they also think that having any kinks that would be crimes irl in fiction means that they want thos stuff to happen, too)

I work in retail. I often have fantasies that involve being mean to customers (of all ages) during a stressful day, but I'd never do it.
It's cathartic. It's normal.

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(Anonymous) 2024-10-19 02:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly the most interesting thing about this is that if you had just shared a secret about Animal Crossing, no one would be talking about anything but Animal Crossing.