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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

...Libby is much easier than pirating. It takes longer, but it's sooo much easier.

[(Anonymous)]

Skill issue. I don't have access to Libby because I'm not in America (I guess it's American but honestly idk), but pirating books is very easy these days. I can do it without an account in literally 3 clicks + typing the book's name. You just need to know the right places...

[(Anonymous)]

Nah dude, I've been pirating shit for over 20 years, and it's fine. But Libby is easier when it comes to books. Hopefully you're just ignorant and not stupid.

[(Anonymous)]

Whatever you say. As I previously stated I have no idea what Libby even is. If it's similar to the digital library available to me then the files are protected by DMR, which sometimes makes stuff complicated sometimes.
With my resources is as easy as "open site" > "type book title" > "looking at the result and selecting the right file extension (usually .epub or .pdf)" > "click download" and then either read on PC of my preferred software or sending it on calibre to my ebook reader.
It's as easy as it gets. I doubt Libby is waaaaay easier than this.

No need to be this inflammatory and call me stupid btw, lol.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

...wait, if you don't have no idea what something is how are you sure anything is easier or harder than it?

[(Anonymous)]

don't have any* lol

[(Anonymous)]

You're boring. I even explicitly wrote "I doubt" so I'm not making any absolute statements in my claim.
But whatever. I'm wrong, you're right. Enjoy your internet points, nonny.

[(Anonymous)]

"I have no idea what Libby even is" [follows with a wrong assumption about what it *could* be]

Then you can at least look it up? It has no DRM or any of that crap. You just put in your library location and card, and digital versions of books are available for free. It's similar to using z-library, but legal.
I'm sure overseas first world countries has some equivalent. Jeebus.

[(Anonymous)]

I love how you are attacking me when I don't even pirate books that are available to me and never claimed to. I'm not even justifying piracy! WTF. I was just saying that piracy is very very easy and I could do it in three clicks and typing. Saying that Libby or any other platform like that can't be "sooo much easier" than piracy because book piracy is very very easier (you mentioned z-lib so YOU KNOW and yeah I didn't mention it because I didn't want to publicise the name and make piracy more accessible to people that don't know...). Ever heard of the telegram bots? That shit is crazy easy.

And no, my country doesn't have a system like that without DRMs. Sorry to disappoint. Maybe the Australian UK or other European country have it. I don't. (also because we don't have a "national" public library, but a "regional" one) Not all countries are technologically advanced as the USA.
AND I personally don't even read ebooks at all, lol. And the few times I attempted to do so I had the ones free from Amazon or tried borrowing from my local library (which I couldn't read, because fucking adobe DRMs), but didn't like to read the book on my kindle so I just gave up. I just know this piracy shit because I find it fascinating.

[(Anonymous)]

Libby has DRM...

[(Anonymous)]

"I'm sure overseas first world countries has some equivalent"

You're very wrong, then.

[amalthia]

Libby isn't easier, it takes months sometimes to borrow an ebook and you have to have a library card. Compared to IRC with instant access, Libby is just okay. I use it to support the authors but if I want to read something this year I pirate it, and still place the hold on the Libby copy.

[(Anonymous)]

..... taking longer doesn't mean more difficult.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think it's as straightforward as you're making it out to be. Sure, if you read ebooks on your phone or computer, then Libby's very easy to use.

If you read ebooks on a Kobo or other epub ereader, however, then transferring a library book to your ereader requires wrangling with Adobe Digital Editions, and every time the program updates you have to reset stuff so that it works again, and sometimes it just inexplicably fails to transfer a book properly and even my tech-y brother can't sort it out for me.

Or if you read ebooks on a Kindle and you live outside the US (and possibly some other countries, but the UK is definitely not one of the lucky ones), then Libby straight up won't allow you to transfer a library book to your ereader.

Outside of technological issues, Libby can also present difficulties for people who read popular series. You only get a limited number of holds and checkouts (six and six in my library, though I know some libraries are more generous). Trying to make sure that I can read a series in order, without such a long wait between books that I forget what's happening, is quite a juggling act at times.

Compared to all that, yes, piracy is easier. I still use Libby a lot, but when I hit a snag like an ebook refusing to transfer to my Kobo, or a three-month wait for Volume #4 in a series when I've just read Volumes #1-3 and Volumes #5-6 are already ready for me to checkout, then I'm very happy piracy is there to ease the process for me.

[amalthia]

You explained much better than I did the difficulties of using Libby! Our library has a 7 hold limit and it's frustrating because some items have a 6 month hold wait and the system doesn't have enough money to buy more copies to lessen the wait. Also, our libby has a lot of items listed that now have 0 copies but are still listed. My poor wishlist is littered with these.

I also read on my Pocketbook E-ink reader and that helps me manage series, even when I'm downloading them from Libby. I add all the Libby ebooks to Calibre and once I have the complete series in hand, I start reading.

You're right

[(Anonymous)]

But the fact is OP knows how to pirate and is just too lazy to learn an easier way. For a certain type of person, a hard way that you already know is always going to be easier than making an effort to learn a new easier way.

[(Anonymous)]

DA
Not to me. You need North American library card.

Also it's my local problem but libby is blocked for me (welcome to being Russian)

[(Anonymous)]

A lot of american libraries will grant internet only cards with no residency requirement. Being able to access Libby, though, is a problem I cannot help with.

[(Anonymous)]

FS can't imagine that there's other countries besides US.
Russians have the best pirating sites. You won in life if you speak Russian.

[(Anonymous)]

lol I agree! Studied Russian for unrelated goals, but I ended up using it a lot for piracy years ago when I had to pirate rare stuff like lost dictionaries and software! Only russian sites/IRC channels had the stuff I needed!
Sites in mandarin too are quite good, for weaboo stuff at least.

>>FS can't imagine that there's other countries besides US.
and yep, THIS. sometimes I need to remind myself that some North Americans really have no idea how the world outside their country is like. They never see it and mostly they are not even curious about it. Quite baffling to me, but EH. The privilege of being the most "important" country of the world, I guess. (I can't find a better adjective oh well)
I find it quite humorous here though since I believe it's now quite well known that there are regular nonnies that are from different European countries.

[(Anonymous)]

The secret talks about Libby. The Secret Talks About Libby. THE SECRET TALKS ABOUT LIBBY. If you don't have access, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT
We were talking to Russian anon, now, weren't we? Jesus Christ.
We can go OT in F!S. It's not a forum with strict rules about staying perfectly in topic. Are you new???
Just let us interact with each other since a lot of us can only do that when the daily post is dead due to time zones!

If you take offence on my generalisation of North Americas, I get it. You're right, I'm being callous due to my personal frustration, but your reaction is just ridiculous given the place you're posting in. And the tone is incredibly childish, same energy as hanging "NO LIBBY NON-USERS >:(((" on the tree house to keep us out.

[(Anonymous)]

Incidentally, I'm studying Mandarin because I love cNovels and the sound of tonal languages but I'm forever stuck on the first lessons because of the laziness.

US is the most important country, for better or for worse. I kinda imagine US to be in cahoots with UK on political arena, but that's just me. I have no proof.
ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

takes longer, but it's sooo much easier

To some people, taking longer is exactly what's harder about it.

[(Anonymous)]

That's not difficulty, that's a preference.