[ SECRET POST #6894 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6894 ⌋

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[fscom]

I don't get the eldest daughter or the youngest child thing in Taylor Swift's song "Eldest Daughter". When I think of "eldest daughter" as, like, an archetype or a struggle that someone has went through, I picture someone like Jana Duggar, the oldest daughter in a family with 19 children, who was a sister mom to her siblings AND was poor/stretched too thin financially for a long time before the Duggars achieved fame and money from their TV show. (If you don't believe me, look into the early years of the Duggars, before the TV show and fame. They didn't even have enough food for all of the children.) In Taylor's case, she grew up in a rich family with just two children. It just seems a little dramatic for Taylor to talk about being an eldest daughter when she had only one younger sibling and definitely was not having to raise him. They are close in age, so it's not like she was caring for a much-younger sibling, and I 100% guarantee she didn't have to give up her nights and weekends to babysit him because the family couldn't afford childcare and mom and dad were working. I too am the oldest child and have one younger brother and grew up middle class, nowhere NEAR as well off as the Swift family was, and I don't relate to this narrative at all.

This also goes for youngest child as referenced in the song. Travis had one older brother....... I hardly believe he was raised up in the wild lol.

[(Anonymous)]

The Eldest daughter thing isn't only about suffering the worst you can, it's the social expectation for daughters to take care of everyone around them regardless of their own mental wellbeing. Social class frankly does not matter one bit when it comes to things like that.

[(Anonymous)]

This is true. Wealth does make it a LOT easier to say no, to walk away, or to outsource such caretaking duties to other people to save yourself the drain on your emotional health, physical health and finances, however.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Yeah I was gonna say, "it's always the daughter" is only true to a certain extent. When you hit a certain social class, the family office and/or trust is expected to take care of everyone, and you have people for that. That's how you get rich heirs/heiresses that are like 45 and adult children being bailed out by daddy still

[(Anonymous)]

I mean I don't expect the child to be able to do any of that. Like sure when they're older they can hire people to do those emotionally draining tasks, but what money is an 8 year old meant to have access to?

[(Anonymous)]

A frankly interesting number of my friends are oldest daughters with usually one, so sometimes two or three younger siblings who were all fairly close in age, and while they weren't rich they weren't struggling either (well, as far as I knew... Definitely some were comfortably upper middle class) I can confirm what you say is true. Oldest daughter is second mom not because of necessity but because that's what all older female family members are "supposed" to be. It's an old fashioned morals thing.

[bannedbookweek]

I think it's a natural consequence of being a firstborn kid, they naturally care for their younger siblings and want to make sure they're doing alright.

[(Anonymous)]

secret maker says they are an eldest daughter tho and don't relate

" I too am the oldest child and have one younger brother and grew up middle class, nowhere NEAR as well off as the Swift family was, and I don't relate to this narrative at all."

[(Anonymous)]

"This didn't happen to me, so everyone who says it happened to them and it's a thing is lying. My experience is the only one that exists.

Taylor Swift is the childish one, though."

[(Anonymous)]

you expect people to read the full secret before commenting instead of going off their first impression? 😂

[(Anonymous)]

Yep! I do think fewer siblings makes an impact but I don't know that class matters much, especially if your younger sibling is disabled or anything.

That said, I think the song probably works better interpreted as fiction.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know a thing about TSwiftie but what kind of wealth bracket is her family meant to have? Are we talking about those Old Money family types where they're so rich is mind-boggling, or were her parents just comfortably well off?

[(Anonymous)]

People like to say they were mind-bogglingly rich but they really weren't. They were very comfortably well off but not old money types. Her dad was a stock broker, eventually started his own company.

Due to my job, I know a lot of people like that, and yeah, they're comfortable, but they're not rolling in the riches. It's precarious, when you're starting a company of your own. Bills matter. And a lot of businesses don't make it. There's tons of uncertainty.

Obviously, it worked out for them. But when Taylor was growing up? They weren't filthy, careless rich.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean they weren't billionaires but they owned multiple houses/properties and were easily able to spend over $1 million in total on setting up her career in the days before she hit it big, which I would classify as rather above the level of simply "comfortably well off."

[(Anonymous)]

She was born to millionaires at a time when the average American median income was less than $30,000. Which was also less than the cost of a ten year old car with 75k miles on it goes for today.

[(Anonymous)]

Very well off - not billionaire level but wealthy New Yorker in finance level.

[(Anonymous)]

Her dad is third generation banker, possibly old money and her maternal grandfather was a doctor.

Annoying baby sister to an older sister struck with the parentification stick early, major "oh my god, I have to take care of this loser" vibes. Made her a great mum, though.

[(Anonymous)]

Is this song absolutely meant to be autobiographical though?

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah idk why swifties always seem to take all her songs as autobiographical.

[(Anonymous)]

Probably bc she's spent so much time setting up Easter eggs and building her image as an artist as someone whose songs are her diary. Now she's having trouble extricating herself from that narrative bc she spent so long promoting it herself

[erinptah]

That was my first question. Haven't heard this song, but I can think of other Taylor Swift songs that aren't. (...And plenty of songs by Any Other Singer that aren't literally about them.)

[(Anonymous)]

Well, it's a track five, and Taylor's track fives are usually the most emotionally vulnerable and personal on her albums, historically speaking.

Whether or not she changed that up for this album? I doubt she'd tell us.

tbh I think the Secret OP is taking the concept of Being An Eldest Daughter too literally. It's about expectations, the weight of them, and how she found a home where things are still gorgeous and lovely, despite the weight of those expectations.

It's more a 'feeling' than a 'story', if that makes sense. It doesn't surprise me that it's a very love it or hate it song.

[(Anonymous)]

Surely can't be if she has only one sibling. There have to be three for there to be an "eldest".