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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-06-26 03:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #1271 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1271 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

No mudkips, don't worry.

Secrets Left to Post: 25 pages, 608 secrets from Secret Submission Post #182.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - doing it wrong ].
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[identity profile] demiincarnate.livejournal.com 2010-06-27 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Let's make a fandom! Somebody go get [livejournal.com profile] gethenian to come too and we can start one.
Haha, what kind of a criticism is that? Maybe people were taking issue with the fact that all of the politician characters talked like politicians.

[identity profile] aeonamber.livejournal.com 2010-06-27 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
In my experience the hatedom can be just as bad as the fandom. 'Tis best to just smile and nod and hope whoever you're talking to doesn't start on a tirade, regardless of which side they're on. XD

(Anonymous) 2010-06-27 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Mine weren't about Donald, but I def had similar special day dreams of my own when young.....uh, and sometimes still do.

(Anonymous) 2010-06-27 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
How about... maybe they don't know you?
Join a couple of clubs, make sure people actually see what you draw and maybe you'll get more comments. Otherwise what you post just shows up for half a second on the home page.

And concerning your point about pageviews, if the idea behind what you're drawing is funny or interesting, a lot of people will like it even if the art is bad. That's how Deviantart works: if people relate to it, they'll comment.

[identity profile] demiincarnate.livejournal.com 2010-06-27 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Aaagh it's like there's some guy attached to his crotch. WORST EUPHEMISM

[identity profile] angary.livejournal.com 2010-06-27 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, yeah, I've seen something like that: fans who claim to love ZQ, but refuse to believe or consider him being bi or gay. Kudos to you for the smackdown secret, and I love that you ship Sasan/Smudge. Now that I think about it, it could work, but I see them only being occasional fuckbuddies because Sasan would get tired of spending too much time with Smudge and hearing him go on and on about his bisexual fury.

[identity profile] cordelia-gray.livejournal.com 2010-06-27 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks! *deep breath* I'll give it a shot!

(Anonymous) 2010-06-27 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
You and most of the non-Jack-Chick-tract-passing world, OP. Check out the song here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGpYFLIhDio&feature=related

[identity profile] demiincarnate.livejournal.com 2010-06-27 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
It's just so hard (no pun intended) to find a good word! "Cock" is no good, but neither is dick, penis, phallus, length, THROBBING MANHOOD, etc. It's worse for women, I think. "Vagina" has even fewer synonyms, and they sound stupider too.
thene: PROTIP do not fuck with Minette (minette)

[personal profile] thene 2010-06-27 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
men are more likely to be expected to soldier through difficulties unemotionally, and this puts a bigger strain on them.

[citation needed]

Srsly. I guess it depends somewhat on what sort of 'difficulties' you're referring to and what sort of emotions you're referring to. I'm tempted to refer you to the only good Family Guy episode - the one where Lois flips her shit and climbs the Christmas tree. Women - mothers especially - are frequently expected to soldier through difficulties and to not express anger or other strong negative emotions.

I feel that reluctance to hurt female characters may stem from a culture of misogynistic 'chivalry' - the culture that says both 'don't hit girls' and 'girls aren't allowed to hit back'. The differences between men and women are much, much smaller than the differences in the social expectations of men and the social expectations of women. I tend to go with 'nonexistent' because I am tired of being told that I can't possibly exist because I identify with women's expectations not at fucking all.

Broader range is definitely true - there's some female characters I love but many I hate because they're not written as if they were people; their role is 'woman' rather than 'person' and that is just boring and artificial as all fuck. Most of my OCs and almost all my RP characters are female (okay, a few of them are genderqueer). Most of the characters I write about in fanfics are cisgendered men.

Spoiler, the character in my icon is a guy. A dead guy who's possessing a female body because it was the first one he found, so I think of him as a trans guy who presents as female because it's convenient. This may be a translation error but I don't care - the English version definitely states that Minette is really a dude.

[identity profile] ameranth.livejournal.com 2010-06-27 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Aw, this secret makes me happy. Thanks Anon!

(Anonymous) 2010-06-27 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
IS THAT XKCD'S SECRET?

[identity profile] to-question.livejournal.com 2010-06-27 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
While I'm sad that people think like this, I have to say yes to everything you expressed. Spock would certainly not approve of that kind of illogical ignorance.

[identity profile] endis-ni.livejournal.com 2010-06-27 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
There was a rumour going round that the British tabloids all had Pete Doherty's obit all written, frequently updated, and ready to go at very short notice if need be.

[identity profile] innatizzy.livejournal.com 2010-06-27 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
What other word would you want people to use?

I'm assuming you're talking about sex scenes, because otherwise I'd have to agree that "cock" thrown about randomly in a story would be rather off-putting.

(Anonymous) 2010-06-27 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
You are choosing to allow her to do these things to you. I'm not blaming you for her bad behavior, but take responsibility for your choices.

You can walk away. Do it. Choose not to be a victim. Then start your own comic, or find a collaborator who is isn't physically and mentally abusive.

~ Anon who's been there

(Anonymous) 2010-06-27 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Wow! You're completely right! 100% correct!

Or you would be if the secret you were replying to had said anything about finding such secrets not interesting, which, as a matter of fact,

[identity profile] setosnicegirl.livejournal.com 2010-06-27 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
I LOVE YOU TOO YOU SLORE.

[identity profile] ink-maid.livejournal.com 2010-06-27 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
OMG YAY! Love new members! <33 Good luck, bb!

(Anonymous) 2010-06-27 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
Well no, it's not hypocritical. S/he is saying that s/he admires people with the courage to post art with questionable anatomy and coloring. OP wasn't making fun of the artist. I fail to find the hypocrisy in that.

But please, enlighten me.

That's a dick thing to say.

Oh boohoo, did I hurt your feelings?

[identity profile] rmarques.livejournal.com 2010-06-27 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
The setting wasn't the major problem for a lot of people, the way the non-white characters were written was. Like how the Haitian people talking in their language were said to be "gibbering". If you avoided stuff like that, I don't think you should attract much/any negative attention that the canon hasn't already (if it even did get some negative attention, anyway).

ETA: Aaaand apparently this refers to something else other than what I'm thinking, so feel free to disregard this comment. >_> <_<
Edited 2010-06-27 00:28 (UTC)

[identity profile] antoj.livejournal.com 2010-06-27 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
IDK WHO THAT IS BUT PROBABLY

[identity profile] oni-queen.livejournal.com 2010-06-27 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Way to bring up a topic that I've been trying to avoid Anon, I always cry when ever I think of it T_T And when it does happen I'm gonna be an emotional wreak.

[identity profile] threnody.livejournal.com 2010-06-27 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
If you're into it from a historical and not just the early-church revision stuff? It would have been very, very, VERY odd for a 30-something Jewish man to be unmarried at that point in time. Indeed, at any point until fairly recently. Judaism is built around the home and family life. The early church did a lot of fancy footwork, trying to mold him into something he didn't necessarily present himself as; I believe very much in Jesus as a Jew with radical ideas, who lived his life according to halacha at the time. Which would in all likelyhood have included marriage. Mary Magdalene is the only woman we see with a special connection to him, so I'd say she was as likely to be his wife as not.

[identity profile] caelith.livejournal.com 2010-06-27 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry dude, anyone who uses the term 'fag' as an insult, automatically falls into the "useless fuckwit" category. You're a dick, your attitude is troll-like, therefore nothing you say to me is of any consequence. Go cry to mommy instead.