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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-04-23 03:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #1572 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1572 ⌋


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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2011-04-23 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
28. http://i55.tinypic.com/e8qtfk.jpg

(Anonymous) 2011-04-23 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL

YAOI FANGIRLS

LOL

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(Anonymous) 2011-04-23 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, Touko and Touya are exactly the same character. Their interaction with N is identical.

I, too, prefer N with Touya, but claiming one pair makes more sense than the other is dumb as they are absolutely the same in canon.

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[identity profile] azure15.livejournal.com 2011-04-23 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Um. Aren't they the exact same pairing just with switched genders? Silent protagonist and all.

You're giving us yaoi fans a bad name.

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[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/digitalized_/ 2011-04-23 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Riiiiiiight. Because aside from White being female and Black being male, they are so very different. This is the prime example of the exact same character being bashed if female and praised if male. Sorry, but you make me physically sick.

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(Anonymous) 2011-04-23 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
You're the same troll who said this was the first generation where it felt appropriate to play as a girl, just because of the romantic subtext. Don't deny it.

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[identity profile] les-lenne.livejournal.com 2011-04-23 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I will only comment on one part of this secret, and that is that I have to agree about the fanarts. N tends to be turned into a very dark sort of antagonist in pics with the girl MC (http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=988072) far more often than in pics with the boy MC, and I really don't like that because it's plain OOC for him to behave that way (http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=926246) and it's sad that almost every pic of the girl MC and him is of that nature.
Edited 2011-04-23 21:07 (UTC)

Agreed.

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[identity profile] sarajayechan.livejournal.com 2011-04-23 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I like both pairings (N/Hilbert moreso), but I've noticed that too. N in N/Hilda is always a studly memetic molestor, while in N/Hilbert he's a socially confused little woobie. And I can't help but wonder if the former happens because of Hilda's gender. :/ Like the second anon said, they're essentially the same character and N acts exactly the same no matter which one you play as.

tl;dr N IS a socially confused little woobie and it makes more IC sense for him to act that way with BOTH PCs, not just the male.
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[identity profile] deavar.livejournal.com 2011-04-23 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Fandom is seriously fucking crazy.

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[identity profile] hunterwithcause.livejournal.com 2011-04-23 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Anyone got links to fic/fanart of either of those pairings?

This is like the third or fourth secret about Black/White I've seen and I'm really curious what everyone is on about, now.

[identity profile] kalorii.livejournal.com 2011-04-23 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't care about the pairing wars but both of those pieces of fanart are really cute. >.>

[identity profile] equius.livejournal.com 2011-04-23 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
That's okay, I'd rather see Hilda with Waitress Aurora. Or Skyla.

I dislike N with anyone. He comes off so damn creepy to me in the game, and all the N/Hilbert where he's bishified just makes me lol.

[identity profile] getharion.livejournal.com 2011-04-23 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Because it makes so much more sense for a socially confused manchild to make bedroom eyes at a guy...

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(Anonymous) 2011-04-23 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
You get physically sick over the idea of two fictional characters being together in fandom? Are you serious? Hilda is 99% the same as Hilbert. They're silent protagonists with the same role in the games. The only difference is their genders and a tiny bit different interaction on the ferris wheel with the daily pokemon trainers (not N).

I have no problem with Hilbert/N (and I'm more supportive of Hilda with another character, though Hilda/N can be cute) but if things make you physically sick maybe you should reconsider your involvement in fandom. Especially considering a fictional girl in a fictional romance grosses you out that much.

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(Anonymous) 2011-04-23 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh no, not the icky girl!

(Anonymous) 2011-04-23 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Not really agreeing with the main subject of this secret, because like everyone's been saying, Black and White are essentially the same character, but I definitely agree with your point about N often being portrayed as a "sparkly bish dominant type". It's so incredibly OOC, and I hate it. Although I don't really see how he'd be any more likely to give bedroom eyes to Black...

[identity profile] berrylandia.livejournal.com 2011-04-23 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
If you mean the manga I'm with you, bb.

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[identity profile] pimmy.livejournal.com 2011-04-23 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah see, I personally see White as a strong, confident, brash girl who would totally be the one to comfort/take charge with N and all his troubles. So uh yeah if I were to pair them it would be like how you described N/black anyway.

I wish fanart was drawn that way more often though, dang. I know she's a blank slate, but blushy-crying-timid White just feels so wrong. When I played the game I saw my player character as a girl who stood her ground and made an impact on N, not all "omg he's taking me to the ferris wheel~~ *blush*" Though I guess it helps I'm not really that attracted to him, haha.

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LOL SO TRUE

[identity profile] singie.livejournal.com 2011-04-23 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
N/White fangirls mess up with N's personality so bad every time that I don't even know if that's the right ship for them.

Shipwars aside, come on, you shouldn't have to change a character's personality 180 degrees to make the ship work the way you want. Forever LOL I'm glad someone else sees it too!

[identity profile] alliterations.livejournal.com 2011-04-23 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
So, he wouldn't make "bedroom" eyes at the Female Protag, but the Male one is fully capable of healing N with his gentle and loving magical penis?

Yeahno.

Not the point... at all.

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(Anonymous) 2011-04-23 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Enter butthurt N/White fans..

Damn too late

(Anonymous) 2011-04-23 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
It's funny because I don't ship either but I kinda agree about the fanworks. Most N/Touko fanfics I've read are so LOL worthy I don't even.

~kawaii~ Touko-chan and N ^___^

(Anonymous) 2011-04-23 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
i haven't even played the games yet and i want to say "fuck it." to both of those pairings. i want to ship black/white instead. or go for the ot3 route of black/white/n.

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[identity profile] ryttu3k.livejournal.com 2011-04-23 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
...So, uh.

Now that we know that this does refer to the manga...

Anyone got PokeSpe scanlations for BW? /hopeful

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