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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-10-23 03:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #1755 ]

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeats ]
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(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
lern2read

(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 12:41 am (UTC)(link)

8===D~~

[identity profile] mondaisenshi.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
I get it, anon, you've got penis envy, shut the fuck up.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
the person i'm responding to is so full of himself and his "omg it's double standards to point out women are oppressed, you horrible feminazis" bs that he is honestly not worth the effort of actual discussion

hth

[identity profile] mondaisenshi.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
Well, that's nice. Which is good, because giant ASCII penis seems to indicate that one is incapable of real intelligible conversation, or possibly just of being the bigger person. Either way, well played, anon.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, there comes a point in realizing that all of your Earth Logic is going to be ignored anyway, the person's being enough of a dumbass that anyone who isn't a lost cause will see it, and so the only thing you could possibly squeeze out of the deal is some juvenile entertainment. Of which you'll get far more from straight-up fucking with them than you will attempting to argue a valid point.

[identity profile] mondaisenshi.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
If you'll indulge me, I have to ask for genuine curiosity's sake: If David, there, had gotten bored and decided to post ASCII breasts or vagina, would you consider this to be within the same realm of juvenile silliness as the rather large ASCII penis?

(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 12:57 pm (UTC)(link)
WE WILL TURN YOUR LADYPEEN INTO AN ACCEPTABLE CLIT OF THE CLITCLAN YET!

[identity profile] mondaisenshi.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, we're done having a calm, intelligible conversation with arguable passive aggressive tones, now, are we? Shame, I was honestly hoping for a legitimate response.

Are there any men watching?

(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 12:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Do they look impressed?

You always got along better with men than women, don't you, faghag?

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(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Fighting misogyny with... homophobia and misogyny?

Excellent battle plan.

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[identity profile] mondaisenshi.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, good! You're turning my disdain of people who contribute nothing to a conversation but a sarcastic remark into support for David's words when, literally, I didn't say ANYTHING positive about him. Moreover, you're doing so in a way that contributes nothing to the conversation but a sarcastic remark! What FUN this is! ♥

And yes, I do get along better with guys. What's your point? And why should any guys be impressed by my stance of neutrality in this debate?

I really, honestly fail to see where you're getting your current motivation to attack my words... Unless you're the giant-penis anon, or even the "reply to this comment" anon. But if that's the case, why am I still talking to you? God, this gets old.

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(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Good fucking god, what the hell are you even doing?

This is painful to read, I'm embarrassed for you. If you have nothing invested in this conversation, and you have no understanding of why people are upset, shut the fuck up and stop posting

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(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
This. My goodness.

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[identity profile] mondaisenshi.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Because there's never any point to either ASCII dicks or saying "reply to this comment" and I'm sick of people thinking that those are ever counter-arguments.

From what little I did read, David sounds like an ass. But he didn't sound especially misogynistic to me, just... an ass. Equal-opportunity. And the counter-arguments are being just as obnoxious as he is, but with an air of self-important political righteousness.

And the term "feminazi" was not directed at feminists. This was already stated. It was directed, instead, at the vehement rage-fueled trolls that work under the guise of feminism. And I'm with him on that point - feminism is good. But crying foul every time someone says a single thing just because the target is a female is ridiculous. 'Cause men would be laughed at. And already are. Stop asking for equality and simultaneously expecting your double standards, you're making yourselves sound like cranky-ass PMS bitches when you do that.

Re: Are there any men watching?

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Lol, yeah okay.

Psst, this might be helpful to you: http://fandomsecrets.livejournal.com/778156.html?thread=491673516#t491673516

Re: Are there any men watching?

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
Oh. So you're a misogynist yourself, and perfectly okay with his using misogynistic slurs. That clears some stuff up, thanks.

P.S. "feminazi" is misogynistic and really, really fucking gross and offensive whether it's "directed at feminists" or not. Hope that helps.

P.P.S. asking people not to be sexist asshats =/= "double standards."

Re: Are there any men watching?

[identity profile] mondaisenshi.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
No. But being a misandrist and then complaining about misogyny is. And not everybody in here has demonstrated this behavior, but a lot of the
"feminazis" have. Hate is hate, regardless of who you target it at. It's still sexist if it's against men. It's still racist if it's against the ethnic majority.

And there is such a thing as face-value calling people bitches because they're being bitches. There's such a thing as calling people pussies if they're being pussies. It might be crude and inappropriate language, but it doesn't mean it's sexist. Because I'm sure you've never called anyone a dick, right?

If you don't treat both sexes equally, then how are you not a hypocrite for demanding equality? No, I honestly am seriously asking this because I honestly, seriously do not understand. If you want to bitch at me, hey, whatever, that's your right. But if you can, somewhere, explain to me the answer to this one question, I would be very appreciative.

And if I may be so bold, if you're right and you have no question in your mind that what you are saying/doing is right, then why are you so reluctant to sign your name to your comments?

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(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Taking a "stance of neutrality" and carefully avoiding addressing any part of an actual conversation, when someone is saying misogynistic things and being very offensive is what they're referring to with the "impressing guys" thing. If you've never heard of women acting in a sexist way or aligning themselves with sexist men so they can impress them by showing how "different" they are from those "ugly feminists," well, you're a lucky woman. And staying silent on the issue and nitpicking people who fail to contribute to the conversation adequately enough for your taste, you're aligning yourself with the misogynist -- you certainly don't seem to be calling him out.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
what is unreasonable about not wanting you to use misogynistic terms at female posters jw

(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Are you freaking kidding me? Oh lol.

Please return to this discussion when you've graduated the third grade and/or learn how to read and communicate at an appropriate grade level (typical for the United States is an eighth-grade reading and writing level). I understand that you must be quite young, but perhaps you will grow ever so slightly more intelligent and, with a little luck, less bigoted over time.

In the meantime, please gtfo. This is a site for grown-ups, not self-righteously bigoted little boys who think asking people not to be bigots and asswipes is infringing upon his god-given right to be an asshole in public.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, maybe when who engage women who(GASP!) don't agree with you, you can refrain from calling them misogynist slurs.

But I guess ~putting those uppity bitch feminazis in their place~ is the easiest route, huh?

(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 12:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Go to bed, Will Shitterley.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
How is penis taste? How boy come cumslut?